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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021

      Again, you *could* find the info on social media if you manage to find & follow the right experts but how are people supposed to distinguish the "right" experts from others with excellent credentials, education & positions.. who are, ahem, not so right? Yeah, unsolvable at scale.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021

      To the people telling me about the Sturgis rally. Forget the trad/social media moral panic—and the speculative reporting & headlines. We have actual papers. The event had a huge indoor component & what spread we do know happened in restaurants/workplaces. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e1.htm#T1_down …pic.twitter.com/cD8jDxLZpM

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Mark Yellin

      I don't know. It's not impossible but to me, it looks less likely than it did in early January—more data. Cases down, vaccinations up, seasonality in our favor. I support sensible precautions (go outdoors! wear masks indoors!) & vaccinating as fast we can.https://twitter.com/myellin2/status/1363520782987649026 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Mark Yellin @myellin2
      Replying to @zeynep
      Thinking historically, isn’t a third (Spring) wave inevitable?
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021

      Predictions beyond a month or so are hard (too many variables interacting/too many unknowns) but here's what we do know. Things ARE absolutely looking up. But we're not out of the woods yet. But there are many things we *can* do more safely now, and even more after vaccination.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      *called. Only once! Sorry typing on the phone only goes so far. 😬😄https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1363490391287345160 …

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      I’m not saying it was a wise thing to rush out to celebrate. But how many events like this have we had? Outdoors but widely condemned, confidently called called superspreader. But wasn’t, barely reported. (UNC tests all students on campus twice a week and off campus once a week). https://twitter.com/JoedyMcCreary/status/1362881044551237639 …
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Roel Schroeven

      Request: I'm not aware of any outdoor-only superspreader event. The rare confirmed outdoor transmission cases usually involve lengthy and high-exertion (huffing & puffing) contact. If know of any, please send them. Been tracking down reports for a year.https://twitter.com/roelschroeven/status/1364239981519265793 …

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      Roel Schroeven @roelschroeven
      Replying to @zeynep
      Thank you for your clarifications, and for your effort. I heard some professor on the radio talk about 1/10 transmissions outdoor, which is what concerned me a bit, but it seems quite overblown indeed. The review paper talks about <1/10, which is not the same thing.
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Feb 2021

      Outdoor transmission is not impossible, though seems to be really high bar, so far. It may even happen because something *changes* that we should be aware of. At some point, though absence of evidence *is* evidence exactly because we are looking hard. So please send counters!

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    8. Will‏ @wrightwb 23 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      What about the Champions League match in Italy (Milan I think) back in the spring that was blamed for a lot of the spread early on? Is that considered a true outdoor event?

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Feb 2021
      Replying to @wrightwb

      No. Looked into that. It went along with an enormous amount of watching/drinking together in bars & restaurant etc. It was a potential candidate because of the chanting plus stadiums have weird aerodynamics so more plausible than other cases.

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    10. Will‏ @wrightwb 23 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      That makes sense! I could see the chanting being a reason but assumed there was also a significant indoor component, like the people pointing to the Rose Garden event for Amy Coney Barrett who ignored the indoor component of the event.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Feb 2021
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      https://www.insider.com/coronavirus-atalanta-vs-valencia-blamed-for-rapid-covid-19-spread-2020-3 …pic.twitter.com/7UIZMwVVYw

      8:08 AM - 23 Feb 2021
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