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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Chris Sacca  🇺🇸‏Verified account @sacca 21 Feb 2021

      Chris Sacca  🇺🇸 Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Since day one, @zeynep has been right about COVID. It’s easy to say big outdoor gatherings (rallies, protests, concerts) are superspreader events. (I’m guilty too.) But the data just don’t support that. Instead, it’s the everyday indoor stuff we don’t see that’s killing people.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1363491410075389962 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      The amount of energy we spend confidently predicting catastrophe from things we can see while ignoring a year of evidence on where the high risk are—indoors, workplaces, mostly poor and minority essential workers, crowded housing, congregate living, elderly.
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    2. Maria Chong‏ @mariachong 21 Feb 2021
      Replying to @sacca @zeynep

      The Tulane pre-print about Mardi Gras as a superspreader event is good evidence that large outdoor events can accelerate infections. It doesn’t have to be a binary: indoor spread is dominant, but a mass outdoor event can be a huge vector. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.05.21251235v1.full.pdf …

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    3. Maria Chong‏ @mariachong 21 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mariachong @sacca @zeynep

      * Spread at large outdoors events may be from indoor interactions (hotels, restrooms, restaurants, shopping, bars). It’s helpful to remember that all outdoor events have indoor components.

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    4. Chris Sacca  🇺🇸‏Verified account @sacca 21 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mariachong @zeynep

      Agreed. It’ll be interesting to compare localized events like BLM that don’t have the travel and dining component and result in so few cases, versus the events that are outdoors complemented by time in bars, restaurants, hotels, cabs, etc.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021
      Replying to @sacca @mariachong

      I did not see any convincing data of a spike from BLM protests—should have been observable given the scale. Of course, it was possible especially if it spilled indoors—but they seemed to be outdoors/masked. The widely-condemned Lake of the Ozarks party also didn't cause a spike.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @sacca @mariachong

          After a year of effort, I know of very, very few documented cases of purely outdoor transmission—and those took work: lengthy, close contact, huffing and puffing from a close distance—let alone superspreading. Good to be reasonably cautious, but not high on my risk calculations.

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        3. Maria Chong‏ @mariachong 21 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @sacca

          I’m 100% in agreement about parks (since last March). People need sunlight and physical activity. Normal outdoor activity is so low risk. (Sitting at an outdoor cafe for two hours talking is a different matter.)

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