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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Feb 2021

      Anniversary of Europe’s first lockdown in Italy where ~95K people died of COVID. A 38-year old man shows up at ER, can’t breathe but he only had dinner with people just back from China, he wasn’t in China. So not part of testing! Doctors had to fight to break protocol to test.pic.twitter.com/oVp7JwcwRI

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Feb 2021

      The key problem, in a nutshell. “We thought this was a far away problem that had to do with China, but it was already here with us, and not just from that February 20th but probably from much earlier.”https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-first-doctor-idUSKBN2AK0BA …

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Feb 2021

          I keep saying this, but February 2020 felt like an out-of-body experience. It wasn’t just Trump (though of course he is responsible, culpable and he was terrible) who was in in denial. At some point, when things are calmer, we really need a reckoning on due alarm versus alarmism.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Feb 2021

          I’m on the record insisting that China’s initial coverup was costly, terrible & inexcusable. But after January 20th, they tried to warn us. We got flooded with excellent papers. Their health minister said “it spreads without symptoms” on JANUARY 26th. We didn’t believe it. On us.

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Feb 2021

          I wrote about just that. We absolutely could have distinguished between the strong reasons to suspect their statement before January 20th and the strong reasons to *believe* them afterwards. Knowing what to believe, and when and why is a crucial skill. https://zeynep.substack.com/p/lessons-from-a-pandemic-anniversary …pic.twitter.com/9qJm5GliSL

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        1. Taking Action 4 US‏ @takingaction4us 20 Feb 2021
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          “On the night [Jan 27] of Germany’s first positive test, the virus had seemed far away. Fewer than 100 fatalities had been reported worldwide. Italy, which would become Europe’s ground zero, would not record its first cases for another 3 days”https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/world/europe/coronavirus-spread-asymptomatic.html …

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        1. David Clinch‏Verified account @DavidClinchNews 20 Feb 2021
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          Surely this is the one part of future global pandemic threats that big tech and AI should be (have been) able to help with? Spotting emerging patterns like an increase in dry cough or flu-like symptoms really quickly so that unusual patterns can be analyzed and addressed quickly?

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        1. Marco‏ @MarcoNL88 20 Feb 2021
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          I remember a lot of criticism on narrow case definitions back then, because it would only catch cases that matched the case definition and thus there was never any reason to re-evaluate said case definition. It's not just hindsight.

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        2. Tom Wenseleers‏ @TWenseleers 20 Feb 2021
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          Tom Wenseleers Retweeted Vincent Racaniello

          Most amazing part I found was that the initial reaction to the more contagious (and deadly) UK variant was exactly the same: maybe it's less harmful, just like a flu, because viruses tend to evolve to become less lethal... Right... See below e.g.https://twitter.com/profvrr/status/1341382600598929408 …

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          Tired of uninformed virology news from mainstream media? In this video https://youtu.be/wC8ObD2W4Rk  I explain the properties of the #SARSCoV2 UK variant and why claims that it is more transmissible are not supported by experimental data #trustsciencenotscientists pic.twitter.com/l8CwJhW0y9
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        3. Tom Wenseleers‏ @TWenseleers 20 Feb 2021
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          Tom Wenseleers Retweeted Tom Wenseleers

          And that was at a time that the data was already clear enough in demonstrating a clear transmission advantage, which everyone knew would lead to exponentially more cases.https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1343575693544796160 …

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          Tom Wenseleers @TWenseleers
          More infectious SARS-CoV2 VOC 202012/01 strain is spreading at a similar rate across the whole UK. Clearly not a founder effect. >90% of all infections will be by this strain across the UK by February 1st. See code & data at https://github.com/tomwenseleers/newcovid/blob/master/logistic%20fit%20growth%20rate%20VOC%20202012_01%20by%20region.R … pic.twitter.com/lhOIKJ1xmy
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        1. haritho‏ @haritho 20 Feb 2021
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          A problem that almost every country faced. Till mid March, the govts of US and India, two countries with most number of cases, were sidelining it despite health experts sounding alarms.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Feb 2021
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          Nope. The suggestive, speculative evidence does not support that claim.

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