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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kate Taylor

      I would not be surprised at all if hybrid school was the worst possible combination by creating bridges between otherwise separate networks – which is exactly what you wanna avoid in a pandemic.https://twitter.com/katetaylornyt/status/1361737768892776452 …

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      Kate TaylorVerified account @katetaylornyt
      CDC guidelines advise that all schools operate in hybrid mode (not 100% of students in school all the time) at higher levels of transmission. Modeling suggests this reduces transmission. But models don't take into account what students are going to be doing on their days off.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jessica Bassett

      Yeah. If schools can open, they should open. Halfway or unnecessary measures don't help, and can make transmission challenges *worse*.https://twitter.com/jessica_bassett/status/1361818477754015749 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jessica Bassett @jessica_bassett
      Replying to @zeynep
      The mid-week hygiene theater shutdown does the same thing. Parents don’t get Wednesdays off, kids have to go somewhere. Group childcare, in homes, unmasked is a common solution.
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        2. Peter Kafka‏Verified account @pkafka 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          But... one of the reasons that schools that are offering hybrid (at least in NYC) are doing a halfway version is because they can't bring all the students back fulltime and keep the social distancing measures they've been told to adhere to.

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        3. Peter Kafka‏Verified account @pkafka 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @pkafka @zeynep

          Under current arrangements, the more kids who want to attend class in person, the less capacity each school has to provide in-person class. It's crazy-making but there is a basic logic to it.

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        1. Techie who was once some Army guy‏ @LifeintheCenter 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I love your work but I think you may be off on this one. If the time is limited due to cohorts for spacing then it would make sense to have a hybrid option.

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        2. Shannon England‏ @ShannonDEngland 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Not sure I agree with this - but anecdotally one thing I’ve noticed in my community is that if schools open, parents assume that everything is possible: sleepovers, birthday parties at Chuck E Cheese, sports, dances, dating etc. and I don’t see any messaging counteracting that.

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        3. Shannon England‏ @ShannonDEngland 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @ShannonDEngland @zeynep

          And, I mean - I get it- how do you tell your teen that school is safe but their boyfriend can’t come over to hang and Netflix and Chill- or that Johnny’s birthday party is too dangerous but they have to go to school still. It’s confusing.

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        2. Margaret Thornton, Ph.D. (she/her/hers)‏ @MaggieEThornton 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Are you of the opinion that distancing in schools isn't important? I think that's the impetus for many hybrid models.

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        3. Michele Caracappa‏ @MicheleCaracapp 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @MaggieEThornton @zeynep

          Agreed — there’s some amount of safety theater reducing in-person instructional time in some districts, but the broader issue is to ensure distancing in classrooms, cohorts need to rotate — unless there are community-wide efforts to secure more learning space.

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        1. Tony Biasotti‏ @TonyBiasotti 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          How do we square this with the fact that "distance between students" is seen by many epidemiologists as second only to masking in importance? This article says they don't recommend hybrid school, but distancing is the reason for hybridhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/upshot/schools-reopening-coronavirus-experts.html …

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        1. Tony Yates‏ @t0nyyates 16 Feb 2021
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          I suppose if staff were vaccinated and the attendance groups were not overlapping then sufficient restraint on suppression might be maintained.

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        2. Citizen Logan‏ @logan_citizen 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Do schools have enough ventilation? If not, 6 ft distance doesn’t prevent transmissions. A lot of studies have already demonstrated this issue. Ventilation is critical in indoor settings! A recent incident report:https://news.yahoo.com/infected-5-minutes-20-feet-192346911.html …

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        3. amit kumar‏ @kumar_amit 16 Feb 2021
          Replying to @logan_citizen @zeynep

          yeah why not do ventilation in this cold frigid winter.

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