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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Feb 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ben Smith

    I do learn from insider reporting but a "definitive" piece would be framed around how the Facebook Oversight Board is an attempt to gain legitimacy *without* giving up control over fundamental things. And providing this kind of access to get these pieces out is part of that play.https://twitter.com/benyt/status/1360205251828207616 …

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    Ben SmithVerified account @benyt
    Definitive @Klonick piece on the Facebook Oversight Board includes 👀👀https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/inside-the-making-of-facebooks-supreme-court … pic.twitter.com/DhkSnU7KRj
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Feb 2021

        In fact, these insider pieces add important evidence about the real nature of the Facebook Oversight Board: that it is being rolled out BY FACEBOOK as part of a PR push, with Facebook trying to elbow it into a position where we treat it as a "Supreme Court" despite the obvious.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Feb 2021

        It doesn't make the Oversight Board irrelevant, and I think it's fine for people to make different calculations against joining such organizations, with the hope of being part of insider reform. That has always had a historical place, and it is not always an illegitimate choice.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Feb 2021

        But we don't have to get played about the nature of the attempt, and what's going on. It's especially important because if we get played like this, we won't be able to talk about what actually needs to happen—the part that's not on Facebook, but on us. The part we failed.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Feb 2021

        An "Oversight Board" that has no oversight over: what gets optimized, design, amplification, surveillance microtargeting, custom/lookalike audiences... OH LOOK SQUIRREL. This is a very very very narrow content moderation appeal process maybe slightly better than the previous one.

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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Feb 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted The New Yorker

        I'd like to close up this thread out by adding that, imo, this is not the at all the right way to think about this. Facebook is trying to fix some of its issues AND cement its power, not devolve it, and, crucially, wants to do it *on its own terms*.https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1360732237038292993 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        The New YorkerVerified account @NewYorker
        “Like a benevolent dictator, [Zuckerberg] wants to devolve power away from Facebook and himself.” @Klonick reports on her 18 months inside Facebook, on this week’s episode of #NewYorkerRadio. Listen here: http://nyer.cm/WHOMm3a 
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      2. kevin russell‏ @kevinrns 12 Feb 2021
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        Like a microphone held front of the output speakers its a feedback screech, creating hate and violence monsters. Facebook is a feedback loop of monsters. Facebook is like a horror movie creating zombies.

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      1. neil turkewitz‏ @neilturkewitz 12 Feb 2021
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        I think it’s a very good piece that expresses various pressures & tensions, but to call it “definitive” is indeed a mistake. It’s a very useful contribution to the discussion, but must—as you say—itself be understood within its own context and history.

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