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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 9 Feb 2021

      Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted K. Taylor, Ph.D., M.S. is vaccinated

      I could care less about anecdotal reports that the cousin of a friend of a twitter follow says low-priority groups are kinda vaccine hesitant & it’s the fault of actual experts communicating badly when high-priority communities who deeply want access to vaccines aren’t getting ithttps://twitter.com/KYT_ThatsME/status/1359201716881752064 …

      Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

      K. Taylor, Ph.D., M.S. is vaccinated @KYT_ThatsME
      I don’t want to hear a single thing about hesitancy when I now a good number of black Americans who want but haven’t had access. My mother is a whole health care worker and only got vaccinated last night because I made connections and got a call they had leftover vaccines.
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      15 replies 20 retweets 148 likes
    2. Filmnoir‏ @Filmnoir11 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen

      Angie, as a POC who has family relatives in these communities, the answer is absolutely both. Both you and Zeynep can be right at the same time.

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    3. Filmnoir‏ @Filmnoir11 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @Filmnoir11 @angie_rasmussen

      Messaging around the vaccine has been so confusing, and my mother, who works in an LTCF, still won't take the vaccine due to the fact that she is convinced it isn't safe and won't work.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Filmnoir‏ @Filmnoir11 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @Filmnoir11 @angie_rasmussen

      To stay that messaging isn't a problem is absurd. Is it THE problem? No. But it absolutely is a problem where people are convinced that the vaccine doesn't work and isn't necessary.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @Filmnoir11

      I agree messaging is imperfect. But at the same time, it is not helpful to say we need to be overstating what we know. Ultimately that undermines trust which increases hesitancy.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. Filmnoir‏ @Filmnoir11 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen

      My problem is that you had mocked and dismissed Zeynep's anecdotes of hesitancy as data at the same using another users' stories of access to bolster your argument.

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    7. Filmnoir‏ @Filmnoir11 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @Filmnoir11 @angie_rasmussen

      Frankly, I'm quite let down to your responses to Zeynep's concerns regarding messaging.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    8. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 10 Feb 2021
      Replying to @Filmnoir11

      It’s not just Zeynep insisting that vaccine hesitancy is the direct result of honest “messaging” while dismissing larger issues of access. Of course hesitancy is a major issue but scolding scientists for truthfully discussing data—while offering no data herself—oversimplifies it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    9. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 10 Feb 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @Filmnoir11

      Zeynep has no background in virology or vaccinology and yet she sees fit to tell those who do how they should communicate on these topics based on some tweets she saw. Most scientists (self included) have been saying what she’s claiming we aren’t (we don’t know but expect...)

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Feb 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @Filmnoir11

      Man! Someone pointed me here. *waves at subtweet* There’s a lot of claims here about things I did NOT say or claim (like no scientist is saying this? Whenever did I day that? Plus, I’m talking about what the public is hearing from authorities & media, not scientists on Twitter.)

      1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen @Filmnoir11

      Also it’s pretty easy to hold multiple thoughts here. Pointing out one problem doesn’t mean the others don’t exist. Access, equity, historical mistrust... None of those mean they can’t be a *different* problem with a particular message that may affect another group.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen @Filmnoir11

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Dr. Angela Rasmussen

          Finally, the whole time, the thing I’m pushing for is to say exactly what you’re saying here which is we don’t know fully yet but we expect... Can’t believe we’re manufacturing a disagreement out of what I’m advocating for: messaging that’s exactly what you say you already say.https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1359507258359439366 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Dr. Angela RasmussenVerified account @angie_rasmussen
          Replying to @angie_rasmussen @Filmnoir11
          Zeynep has no background in virology or vaccinology and yet she sees fit to tell those who do how they should communicate on these topics based on some tweets she saw. Most scientists (self included) have been saying what she’s claiming we aren’t (we don’t know but expect...)
          3 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
        3. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 11 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Filmnoir11

          I've discussed this with you directly. You have made it a point to say that "experts" are bungling communications about vaccines by saying "we don't know" about transmission and then further saying that drives hesitancy by citing what you've seen on social media. That's not data.

          2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
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