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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. joseph osmundson (all pronouns)‏ @reluctantlyjoe 9 Feb 2021

      joseph osmundson (all pronouns) Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      great so then let's just lie to people and express certainty about something we don't know that will definitely help us in the long run 🙃🙃🙃https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1359328328264658949 …

      joseph osmundson (all pronouns) added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      So, I'm not going to tag all the folks I've had disagreements with for *months* now, since December, who didn't believe me that our bungled messaging on post-vaccine transmission was fueling vaccine hesitancy. 😬How many examples have we heard now? I hear this every single day. https://t.co/AmOgwNgx39 
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @reluctantlyjoe

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      I actually have confidence that most folks can read/interpret correctly and even read a tweet down! But yes, if this were the general level of reading comprehension, I would worry. Thankfully, I do have some certainty that it is not.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1359330217454624771 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      To make it clear, the remedy isn't to give false or unsubstantiated hope, but to get out of the "we don't know" trap when we *do* have some sense of the direction, but need more clarity with data (which we can say), and also to emphasize the real upside!
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    3. joseph osmundson (all pronouns)‏ @reluctantlyjoe 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      but there's conflicting evidence from animal models and human data about whether there's infection after vaccination. this is an opportunity to bring people into what science looks like: sometimes we don't know, and that's the answer. we WILL know. we don't yet.

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    4. joseph osmundson (all pronouns)‏ @reluctantlyjoe 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @reluctantlyjoe @zeynep

      and trust that the downside of being *checks notes* honest about not knowing something yet is that if we pretend things are looking GREAT re: transmission and we're WRONG about that? that's a nightmare situation and will hurt us for years or decades

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    5. Information Junkie  👨‍💻‏ @JustTheFacts37 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @reluctantlyjoe @zeynep

      We “don’t know” HOW MUCH of a reduction in transmission vaccines will produce But all available evidence points in the same direction of a reduction of some magnitude; it’s not a yes/no question, but one degrees

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. joseph osmundson (all pronouns)‏ @reluctantlyjoe 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @JustTheFacts37 @zeynep

      "all evidence points to" is not the same as "we know" fwiw

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mathnegative @reluctantlyjoe @JustTheFacts37

      That is what I've been saying for months!

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        2. joseph osmundson (all pronouns)‏ @reluctantlyjoe 9 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mathnegative @JustTheFacts37

          i can't tell you how many times you said "we know" in this thread

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        3. joseph osmundson (all pronouns)‏ @reluctantlyjoe 9 Feb 2021
          Replying to @reluctantlyjoe @zeynep and

          and to be CLEAR, this data is brand new and i would have disagreed with your statement even in Dec. you might have been right on early, but what if you weren't??? we didn't know at all then!

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