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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021

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      So, I'm not going to tag all the folks I've had disagreements with for *months* now, since December, who didn't believe me that our bungled messaging on post-vaccine transmission was fueling vaccine hesitancy. 😬How many examples have we heard now? I hear this every single day. https://t.co/AmOgwNgx39 

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021

      To make it clear, the remedy isn't to give false or unsubstantiated hope, but to get out of the "we don't know" trap when we *do* have some sense of the direction, but need more clarity with data (which we can say), and also to emphasize the real upside!

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021

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      See what people accuse me of, when I make the most basic point? That I suggested that we "just lie to people", or "express certainty about something we don't know." Exactly the problem that I'm talking about.https://twitter.com/reluctantlyjoe/status/1359333090573881350 …

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      joseph osmundson (all pronouns) @reluctantlyjoe
      great so then let's just lie to people and express certainty about something we don't know that will definitely help us in the long run 🙃🙃🙃 https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1359328328264658949 …
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted joseph osmundson (all pronouns)

      So worth dissecting. The fear is "people are gonna wanna.. go wild" if they hear the correct message that we do expect the vaccines to reduce transmission, but we're waiting for more data before relaxing the guidance. So we say "we don't know" when we do.https://twitter.com/reluctantlyjoe/status/1359340516689723394 …

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      joseph osmundson (all pronouns) @reluctantlyjoe
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      i'm great with HOPE! i love HOPE! and yet it's critically important that – while vaccines are scarce – we stay the course on NPIs, vaccinated or not. *that* messaging is actually hard. People are gonna wanna get the shot and go wild! And – for a million reasons – we can't do that
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021

      This is a version of "if we tell people to mask up, they will stop distancing" which I heard from WHO and other experts early on why they didn't like masks. Sociologically it was the wrong guess and it was quickly debunked with data. People going "wild" fear has hampered so much.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Feb 2021

          One can dismiss these as anecdotes but they're everywhere. Plus, we do have polling that shows transmission as key motivator for vaccines. The person I quoted about our terrible messaging was an infectious diseases epidemiologist/scientist at Johns Hopkins University, by the way.pic.twitter.com/Q1gPFnLXog

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Feb 2021

          I'd seen this in another poll, too. Among those most motivated to get the vaccine? Reason number one and two is they believe vaccine will protect *others*. Resuming normal life as important as not getting COVID. (Wish they had asked this to the hesitant!). https://apnorc.org/projects/safety-concerns-remain-main-driver-of-vaccine-hesitancy/ …pic.twitter.com/mf0zTM12Em

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Feb 2021

          The success of these vaccines may be among the best tools. Willingness inched up (yeay!) and that's in line with a recent experiment that showed telling people others want the vaccine (true!) helps convince them, too. We can accurately inform *and* create appropriate incentives.

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        1. arm and hammer and dance‏ @adambravomusic 9 Feb 2021
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          Also, by summer, people are going to go wild, approved or not. So the choice is between a well-vaccinated public going wild and a poorly vaccinated one going wild. The public health establishment has not gotten it through their heads that indefinite adherence is off the table.

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        1. Aylett Colston‏ @EveryVoiceNC 9 Feb 2021
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          The early message against wearing masks also damaged public trust. It just didn't sound logical, and then it proved untrue. Public health officials need the public trust.

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        1. Pamela Marie‏ @ammopama 9 Feb 2021
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          Most of the people I know who are going to go "wild" are already doing so without vaccination and are potential spreaders. Would be better if we could say you are less likely to spread COVID to grandma if vaccinated, encouraging it, and then say party on.

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        1. writereadtravel‏ @writereadtravel 9 Feb 2021
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          Hard agree. Public needs realistic optimism, clear endpoints, and a path back to a meaningful life. Until public health and feds implement that msg, despair is what we feel.

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        1. Max C‏ @Xanderkish 9 Feb 2021
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          It sounds like a kind of elitism where some experts think the unwashed masses can't accept the truth and have to be corralled like sheep. Can't imagine why that attitude might cause problems.

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        2. Melanopolis  💉 💪🏼‏ @melanied333 9 Feb 2021
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          I would rather they speak to us and share information with us like we are grown-ass adults who can understand nuance and uncertainty. This constant drumbeat of “but you have to mask up and social distance forevvvvvveeeeerrrrrr more” is so depressing and demoralizing.

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        3. Trish the Dish‏ @TrishtheDish_7 9 Feb 2021
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          And it makes me feel like I should completely stop trying to do both

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