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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted rat king

      I'm looking at the list of things that Facebook says it will take down as "misinformation" and is this retroactive? They'd then have to take down most of public health advice, including from the CDC and the WHO and major newspapers, from the first six months of the pandemic.https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1358838193668325377 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      rat kingVerified account @MikeIsaac
      Monday News: Facebook expands its policies to take down all posts with vaccine-related misinformation, going beyond just COVID issues or previous positions *that will include taking down posts that vaccines cause Autism* https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/08/technology/facebook-vaccine-misinformation.html …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

      Looking at the list, Facebook may have to take down some current real news and public health statements, too. We have ongoing clinical trials with no placebo, for example. (UK heterologous prime boost trial) Also today's reports on ChAdOx1? May need to go under these guidelines.pic.twitter.com/iCCNi6eeBT

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

      There are *still* countries where public health authorities do not recommend masks (besides being standard advice from WHO till June 2020). Tons of mainstream media articles from 2020 with claims of masks making you sick/higher risk for infection. What about those?pic.twitter.com/u4HBsssUug

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

      Yes, yes, yes I'm an early advocate of masks and I think the evidence is strong but we've never had the ideal randomized cluster trial. If there were a chance for a new study, are people not allowed to talk about it on Facebook? Who drew up these @Facebook guidelines?

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

      Oh, the irony: about six months of my life was eaten up by trying to convince WHO that healthy people *should* wear masks and now Facebook will ban the following as misinformation. (Now, it is indeed false). Not so irony: we'll ban whatever WHO disputes for now not an ideal rule.pic.twitter.com/wHr8iYhFBn

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

      Also. Of course there are tests that are not yet approved that can detect COVID-19. Does Facebook think tests collapse into reality from their superimposed state the moment they are approved? If a test fails to detect a new variant for some reason, are we allowed to discuss that?pic.twitter.com/R1RzJo8blS

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

          If even I can immediately spot errors—the ongoing clinical trial with NO PLACEBO—that means Facebook didn't hire a COVID-19 expert to check this. I hope it never happens but seems Facebook would also ban discussion of vaccine production issues. (Last big incident: 2008, China).pic.twitter.com/2Tl0Z1xA2X

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bettina Ryll

          Yes, as it is worded, Facebook would have to ban all discussions of today's news around the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and the strain in South Africa. There goes today's WHO presser, I guess!https://twitter.com/BettinaRyll/status/1358861985597820930 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Bettina Ryll @BettinaRyll
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          Even these statements are problematic 'does not prevent COVID'- is that infection, severe disease, death? 'is untested'- we are worried about patients on checkpoint inhibitors in #Melanoma- which were excluded from the trials, so in this case, the vaccine has not been tested...
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        2. Arieh Kovler‏Verified account @ariehkovler 8 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          So if I said "wellackchally the test detects RNA from the virus, not the virus itself, and certainly not Covid-19 which is a disease" I'd be in trouble for being misleading rather than annoyingly pedantic?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Feb 2021
          Replying to @ariehkovler

          Yeah, I'm ignoring the obvious errors like that... Written by lawyers, I guess, rather than the people who read medical papers or follow the debates?

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        1. If Sully and Fauci had a baby...‏ @JMoore1123 8 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          What about COVID-sniffing dogs? From what I’ve seen from reports of a few studies, they’re about as accurate as rapid tests. FB have a stance on the dogs?

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