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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      Went back my July article on ventilation & aerosol transmission that I wrote after listening to the infectious disease experts in Japan & Hong Kong, aerosol experts here like @linseymarr & reading the epi papers/reports that were, basically, yelling at us. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/kzICCnVE9d

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      We may *finally* be at a turning point for aerosols and airborne transmission—not just lip service but real recognition. Few of the Twitter people who've been saying this—and working so hard to be heard—for a year: @linseymarr @j_g_allen @kprather88 @Don_Milton @ShellyMBoulder

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      There are others, too. The message about aerosols and airborne transmission was dismissed, resisted, attacked despite increasing evidence (again Japan/Hong Kong etc. had this by Feb 2020). When it's written, it will be an interesting and illuminating history of how things fail.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ellen Brockaway

      Yes! Had them typed out and ran out of space and got distracted. Also @jljcolorado has been doing tremendous bilingual, global work.https://twitter.com/happyhexer/status/1357175586200850435 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Ellen Brockaway @happyhexer
      Replying to @zeynep
      Some of the others include: @CorsIAQ & @jljcolorado
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    5. Torr Leonard‏ @torrHL 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado

      “It would have been better to properly *explain* the mechanisms of airborne transmission so people could use judgement.” This is public health messaging we’re talking about. You have to be concise and clear. You can’t trust that most people will use good judgement.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @torrHL @jljcolorado

      This is obviously wrong since the countries that explained the mechanisms correctly are doing way better, while the ones that did not—like ours—are drowning in pandemic theater. You can explain mechanisms concisely and clearly.

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    7. Torr Leonard‏ @torrHL 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado

      “countries that explained mechanisms correctly are doing way better, while ones that did not—like ours—are drowning in pandemic theater.” I never implied the US explained things clearly. “You can explain mechanisms concisely.” So what’s your concise suggestion? I dont see it.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @torrHL @jljcolorado

      Japan's 3Cs work perfectly fine. Japan also has explained airborne transmission and produced place-specific ventilation guidelines ON FEB 2020. They also explained speaking/singing especially loudly is more dangerous. Here's my own article with details. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/33Y7k2r22i

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @torrHL @jljcolorado

      A mistrust of the public has greatly hampered our response. People are capable for understanding and judgment.

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    10. Torr Leonard‏ @torrHL 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado

      Torr Leonard Retweeted Torr Leonard

      What percentage of Americans are capable of that? It’s certainly not a super-majority:https://twitter.com/torrHL/status/1352673046897725440 …

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      Torr Leonard @torrHL
      Jan 2021: "Almost everywhere I stopped — gas stations, rest stops and hotels, across MD, WV, PA, OH, IN and IL — there was a sign on the door saying that people had to wear masks to enter. And almost everywhere, most people ignored the sign." …https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?abVariantId=1&campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210122&instance_id=26286&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=47163702&segment_id=49980&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2F27d4b545-e7d3-57da-ac10-3cb16ed320c6&user_id=d14b8ec7a205806d0e3cc7137d61d692 …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Feb 2021
      Replying to @torrHL @jljcolorado

      That's after a whole year of misinformation, lack of explanation PLUS polarization from the top-down. Surveys show wide compliance, especially at first.

      11:37 AM - 4 Feb 2021
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        2. Torr Leonard‏ @torrHL 4 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @jljcolorado

          So you’re saying that many Americans still aren’t wearing masks... because of all the misinformation? What legit source of info is saying it’s okay to not wear a mask? None. Its not that these people don’t know... it’s that their don’t CARE. Have a nice day.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Feb 2021
          Replying to @torrHL @jljcolorado

          You must live in a different country... Wow.

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