Yes, viruses like to take breaks, too, especially if people are eating or drinking! (Let's ocus on explaining mechanisms properly, including airborne transmission, rather than providing rigid/binary rules & incorrect/incomplete explanations, part zillion). https://twitter.com/Amtrak/status/1356981157754208257 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr
While we are at it—and while noting that many experts in countries like Japan (and SK/Taiwan/HK) had airborne-transmission (AND overdispersion AND presymptomatic transmission) nailed by February 2020—here's our own imitable
@linseymarr on March 5th, 2020.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235640400054046724 …zeynep tufekci added,
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr
While we are at it—and while noting that many experts in countries like Japan (and SK/Taiwan/HK) had airborne-transmission (AND overdispersion AND presymptomatic transmission) nailed by February 2020—here's our own INimitable
@linseymarr on March 5th, 2020https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235640400054046724 …zeynep tufekci added,
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Went back my July article on ventilation & aerosol transmission that I wrote after listening to the infectious disease experts in Japan & Hong Kong, aerosol experts here like
@linseymarr & reading the epi papers/reports that were, basically, yelling at us. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/kzICCnVE9d
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We may *finally* be at a turning point for aerosols and airborne transmission—not just lip service but real recognition. Few of the Twitter people who've been saying this—and working so hard to be heard—for a year:
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There are others, too. The message about aerosols and airborne transmission was dismissed, resisted, attacked despite increasing evidence (again Japan/Hong Kong etc. had this by Feb 2020). When it's written, it will be an interesting and illuminating history of how things fail.
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ellen Brockaway
Yes! Had them typed out and ran out of space and got distracted. Also
@jljcolorado has been doing tremendous bilingual, global work.https://twitter.com/happyhexer/status/1357175586200850435 …zeynep tufekci added,
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“It would have been better to properly *explain* the mechanisms of airborne transmission so people could use judgement.” This is public health messaging we’re talking about. You have to be concise and clear. You can’t trust that most people will use good judgement.
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This is obviously wrong since the countries that explained the mechanisms correctly are doing way better, while the ones that did not—like ours—are drowning in pandemic theater. You can explain mechanisms concisely and clearly.
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“countries that explained mechanisms correctly are doing way better, while ones that did not—like ours—are drowning in pandemic theater.” I never implied the US explained things clearly. “You can explain mechanisms concisely.” So what’s your concise suggestion? I dont see it.
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Japan's 3Cs work perfectly fine. Japan also has explained airborne transmission and produced place-specific ventilation guidelines ON FEB 2020. They also explained speaking/singing especially loudly is more dangerous. Here's my own article with details. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/33Y7k2r22i
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A mistrust of the public has greatly hampered our response. People are capable for understanding and judgment.
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What percentage of Americans are capable of that? It’s certainly not a super-majority:https://twitter.com/torrHL/status/1352673046897725440 …
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Torr Leonard @torrHLJan 2021: "Almost everywhere I stopped — gas stations, rest stops and hotels, across MD, WV, PA, OH, IN and IL — there was a sign on the door saying that people had to wear masks to enter. And almost everywhere, most people ignored the sign." …https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?abVariantId=1&campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210122&instance_id=26286&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN®i_id=47163702&segment_id=49980&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2F27d4b545-e7d3-57da-ac10-3cb16ed320c6&user_id=d14b8ec7a205806d0e3cc7137d61d692 …Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes - Show replies
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