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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      Went back my July article on ventilation & aerosol transmission that I wrote after listening to the infectious disease experts in Japan & Hong Kong, aerosol experts here like @linseymarr & reading the epi papers/reports that were, basically, yelling at us. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/kzICCnVE9d

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      We may *finally* be at a turning point for aerosols and airborne transmission—not just lip service but real recognition. Few of the Twitter people who've been saying this—and working so hard to be heard—for a year: @linseymarr @j_g_allen @kprather88 @Don_Milton @ShellyMBoulder

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    3. Joseph Allen‏ @j_g_allen 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @linseymarr and

      Yep - full year, almost to the day. First piece for me was Feb 9. Covers aerosols, ventilation, MERV-13 filters, portable air cleaners w/ high efficiency filters, humidity...https://www.ft.com/content/5083fd42-4812-11ea-aee2-9ddbdc86190d …

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @j_g_allen @linseymarr and

      Yeah. And the resistance to correctly understanding and communicating the mode of transmission held back everything else that was crucial—masks, ventilation, proper contact tracing, encouraging outdoors... Can't have right guidance on any without acknowledging aerosols/airborne.

      4 replies 24 retweets 88 likes
    5. Joseph Allen‏ @j_g_allen 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @linseymarr and

      100 agree. can't line up controls without first knowing what you're trying to control...

      3 replies 2 retweets 20 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @j_g_allen @linseymarr and

      Thinking back, three things needed acknowledgment to get the right NPIs: aerosols an airborne transmission; presymptomatic transmission, overdispersion. In combination, that gives you ventilation, masks, clusters, how to trace, indoors/outdoors, need for rapid test/turn around...

      3 replies 13 retweets 32 likes
    7. Joseph Allen‏ @j_g_allen 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @linseymarr and

      Agree. And, while it wasn't all fully worked out early, certainly we 'knew enough to know'. So much lost time debating.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    8. Joseph Allen‏ @j_g_allen 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @j_g_allen @zeynep and

      It's my least favorite part of academia ('more research needed') and favorite part of consulting (make decisions now based on best avail evidence and follow precautionary principle)

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @j_g_allen @linseymarr and

      Well, more research is always needed. But public health requires action and on this particular aspect, I think we got a lot of evidence pretty early. Maybe we couldn't be as sharp as Japan and be there in February but March? April? Last month?

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    10. Jay P‏ @jokkwords 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @j_g_allen and

      Astounding how bad the US public health establishment's messaging has been. Just shameful.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @jokkwords @j_g_allen and

      Experts, too. Incredible failure.

      6:48 PM - 3 Feb 2021
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        2. Jay P‏ @jokkwords 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @j_g_allen and

          And if not for folks like you, I'd probably think "well, best anyone could do given what we knew; no one could've done better." The truth is, of course, much less comforting.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @jokkwords @j_g_allen and

          Yeah many say that—and of course that happens sometimes—but it’s just not true for this. And many other key pandemic turning points.

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