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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

      Nature editorial, February 2021. "The coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is transmitted predominantly through the air" and "WHO and the CDC need to update their guidance."https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00277-8 …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      One more article. Please note that the 6 feet/15 minute rule was *never* good advice because the rule didn't make sense for the public. It would have been better to properly *explain* the mechanisms of airborne transmission so people could use judgement. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-covid-19-variant-in-barrie-outbreak-upends-conventional-wisdom-of/?utm_medium=Referrer:+Social+Network+/+Media&utm_campaign=Shared+Web+Article+Links …pic.twitter.com/bOcmiA8bob

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      Once you have rampant outbreaks, yeah, contact-tracing gets overwhelmed, whatever the rule. South Korea which used very aggressive contact-tracing to stamp out terrible outbreaks tracked everyone in same indoor space—even giant clubs. But you can only do that early in the game.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

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      Yes, viruses like to take breaks, too, especially if people are eating or drinking! (Let's ocus on explaining mechanisms properly, including airborne transmission, rather than providing rigid/binary rules & incorrect/incomplete explanations, part zillion). https://twitter.com/Amtrak/status/1356981157754208257 …

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      While we are at it—and while noting that many experts in countries like Japan (and SK/Taiwan/HK) had airborne-transmission (AND overdispersion AND presymptomatic transmission) nailed by February 2020—here's our own imitable @linseymarr on March 5th, 2020.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235640400054046724 …

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      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Let's talk about #airborne transmission of #SARSCOV2 and other viruses. A discussion is needed to improve accuracy and reduce fear associated with the term. /1
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      While we are at it—and while noting that many experts in countries like Japan (and SK/Taiwan/HK) had airborne-transmission (AND overdispersion AND presymptomatic transmission) nailed by February 2020—here's our own INimitable @linseymarr on March 5th, 2020https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235640400054046724 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Let's talk about #airborne transmission of #SARSCOV2 and other viruses. A discussion is needed to improve accuracy and reduce fear associated with the term. /1
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      Went back my July article on ventilation & aerosol transmission that I wrote after listening to the infectious disease experts in Japan & Hong Kong, aerosol experts here like @linseymarr & reading the epi papers/reports that were, basically, yelling at us. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/kzICCnVE9d

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      We may *finally* be at a turning point for aerosols and airborne transmission—not just lip service but real recognition. Few of the Twitter people who've been saying this—and working so hard to be heard—for a year: @linseymarr @j_g_allen @kprather88 @Don_Milton @ShellyMBoulder

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021

      There are others, too. The message about aerosols and airborne transmission was dismissed, resisted, attacked despite increasing evidence (again Japan/Hong Kong etc. had this by Feb 2020). When it's written, it will be an interesting and illuminating history of how things fail.

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    10. Michael Hoexter  🔥‏ @mike_cal 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Why the resistance to the obvious?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mike_cal

      For history books. Bunch of complicated reasons. Disciplinary turf wars. Historical legacy. Wrong balance of preponderance of evidence. Plus, some of the evidence (for other diseases) is recent, too, because some of the technical details are really tricky.

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        1. Michael Hoexter  🔥‏ @mike_cal 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          “Wrong balance of preponderance of evidence”? How?

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        2. David Elfstrom‏ @DavidElfstrom 3 Feb 2021
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          I'll bet @jmcrookston could help out with untangling the reasons

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        3. Jonathan Mesiano-Crookston /Denial Is Bad Strategy‏ @jmcrookston 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @DavidElfstrom @zeynep @mike_cal

          Big names got it wrong and pushed things the wrong way is my current num 1 right now. Lack of primary science in medicine re air would be number 2.

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        2. Jonathan Mesiano-Crookston /Denial Is Bad Strategy‏ @jmcrookston 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mike_cal

          See my most recent though from 1966. Not all is technically tricky.

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        3. Jonathan Mesiano-Crookston /Denial Is Bad Strategy‏ @jmcrookston 3 Feb 2021
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          Jonathan Mesiano-Crookston /Denial Is Bad Strategy Retweeted Jonathan Mesiano-Crookston /Denial Is Bad Strategy

          https://twitter.com/jmcrookston/status/1357154299164393474?s=20 … Old is fun because it shows how much we've ignored.

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          Jonathan Mesiano-Crookston /Denial Is Bad Strategy @jmcrookston
          Ah, opening up yet another random PDF on my computer and spending 5 minutes skimming it. Yet another hit This time, we will learn that influenza can transmit as aerosols through the air and infect at very low TCID50s (low dose). Let's go! From 1966. #influenzaisairborne! pic.twitter.com/oV0qKfyW2L
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        2. Dr. M. Tullius "No Mercy for Seditionists" Cicero‏ @TulliusCicero43 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mike_cal

          Also the epistemological conservatism of normal science--see the reception of Semmelweis in the 1840s (handwashing/puerperal fever) and Barbara McClintock in the 1940s and '50s ("jumping genes")

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        3. Michael Hoexter  🔥‏ @mike_cal 3 Feb 2021
          Replying to @TulliusCicero43 @zeynep

          Except aerosol transmission is well established in virology, epidemiology for many pathogens...no epistemological breakthroughs required in 2020/2021...

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