While we are at it—and while noting that many experts in countries like Japan (and SK/Taiwan/HK) had airborne-transmission (AND overdispersion AND presymptomatic transmission) nailed by February 2020—here's our own imitable @linseymarr on March 5th, 2020.https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235640400054046724 …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr
While we are at it—and while noting that many experts in countries like Japan (and SK/Taiwan/HK) had airborne-transmission (AND overdispersion AND presymptomatic transmission) nailed by February 2020—here's our own INimitable
@linseymarr on March 5th, 2020https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235640400054046724 …zeynep tufekci added,
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Went back my July article on ventilation & aerosol transmission that I wrote after listening to the infectious disease experts in Japan & Hong Kong, aerosol experts here like
@linseymarr & reading the epi papers/reports that were, basically, yelling at us. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/why-arent-we-talking-more-about-airborne-transmission/614737/ …pic.twitter.com/kzICCnVE9d
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We may *finally* be at a turning point for aerosols and airborne transmission—not just lip service but real recognition. Few of the Twitter people who've been saying this—and working so hard to be heard—for a year:
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Yep - full year, almost to the day. First piece for me was Feb 9. Covers aerosols, ventilation, MERV-13 filters, portable air cleaners w/ high efficiency filters, humidity...https://www.ft.com/content/5083fd42-4812-11ea-aee2-9ddbdc86190d …
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Replying to @j_g_allen @linseymarr and
Yeah. And the resistance to correctly understanding and communicating the mode of transmission held back everything else that was crucial—masks, ventilation, proper contact tracing, encouraging outdoors... Can't have right guidance on any without acknowledging aerosols/airborne.
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100 agree. can't line up controls without first knowing what you're trying to control...
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Thinking back, three things needed acknowledgment to get the right NPIs: aerosols an airborne transmission; presymptomatic transmission, overdispersion. In combination, that gives you ventilation, masks, clusters, how to trace, indoors/outdoors, need for rapid test/turn around...
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Agree. And, while it wasn't all fully worked out early, certainly we 'knew enough to know'. So much lost time debating.
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It's my least favorite part of academia ('more research needed') and favorite part of consulting (make decisions now based on best avail evidence and follow precautionary principle)
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Well, more research is always needed. But public health requires action and on this particular aspect, I think we got a lot of evidence pretty early. Maybe we couldn't be as sharp as Japan and be there in February but March? April? Last month?
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Astounding how bad the US public health establishment's messaging has been. Just shameful.
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Replying to @zeynep @j_g_allen and
I keep wondering how some of these decisions were made like closing down parks and beaches. Or during reopening allowing indoor dining and bars to open before beaches park trails.
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