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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

      We need to think harder the takeaway from the trials, as well as reporting on the variants and Nab titers etc. For the virology and immunology people, of course those details matter as they plot the (future) boosters. For the rest of us, the really key question is disease burden.

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    2. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 2 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      along with the hush hush near-certainty that an infection after vaccination will be less infectious

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021
      Replying to @AaronRichterman

      Yeah.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Robert Williamson

      I don't understand why we are still stuck at this messaging, as if we have zero idea about this and it's equally plausible that there is absolutely no reduction in infectiousness. This exact message is everywhere, and has been since December.https://twitter.com/jbobwilliamson/status/1356764479435005954 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Robert Williamson @jbobwilliamson
      Replying to @DrLeanaWen
      Seems like an incredibly important thing to figure out. How are we testing the hypothesis that vaccinated folks who contract COVID-19 aren’t spreaders?
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    5. AstroBear‏ @mugsymugsy18 2 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman

      Have heard simone gold argue that if it doesn't impact transmission, there's no reason for low-risk young people to risk harms of getting vaccine. Messaging has been harmful

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @mugsymugsy18 @AaronRichterman

      It’s all over antivax forums and pops up independently all the time. I heard it in my own social circles!!! “No effect on transmission”.

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    7. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @mugsymugsy18

      Funny to see the same data that were in the lancet paper a month ago and minimized/ignored now make headlines. Maybe some movement on thishttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/us/astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine.amp.html …

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    8. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @AaronRichterman @zeynep @mugsymugsy18

      Aaron Richterman, MD Retweeted Aaron Richterman, MD

      https://twitter.com/aaronrichterman/status/1349003759507152907?s=21 …https://twitter.com/AaronRichterman/status/1349003759507152907 …

      Aaron Richterman, MD added,

      Aaron Richterman, MD @AaronRichterman
      2. Data from AZ vaccine chadox study is a mess, but they did weekly PCR screening and points in the same direction. https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2932661-1 … pic.twitter.com/MSsQCKlUU4
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @AaronRichterman @mugsymugsy18

      So frustrating. We had preliminary but clear signal from Moderna, too, in December! Expert messaging tried to be equipoise (despite some evidence) but ended up being heard as "no effect"—because that's how absence of evidence is interpreted in normal language unless clarified.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman @mugsymugsy18

      Remember the "we don't know if there's immunity" even if you tested positive and have antibodies era? So many articles like that I saved from last spring/summer. Expert tried to suggest equipoise (why? This isn't HIV?) and ended up communicating "no immunity" to the the public.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Feb 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman @mugsymugsy18

      Like this. This is an attempt to say "we don't know if a previous infection rules out re-infection" but for an ordinary person, and from the headline, it is heard as "no immunity". This is messaging failure.https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/27/who-says-jury-is-still-very-much-out-on-whether-coronavirus-antibodies-provide-immunity.html …

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