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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eric Topol

    Important. Most trials have "any" (even minor) symptomatic disease as endpoint, because that's quicker to measure, and the vaccines have been shown to be excellent at that part but ALSO they have, so far, driven all death and hospitalization to ZERO in the all trials combined.https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1356699730571534343 …

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    Eric TopolVerified account @EricTopol
    Updating my table For Sputnik, "moderate to severe" endpoints were 20 in the placebo group, 0 in the vaccine arm (100% reduction); not broken down by severe only pic.twitter.com/AHWgtsLOQU
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

        We need to think harder the takeaway from the trials, as well as reporting on the variants and Nab titers etc. For the virology and immunology people, of course those details matter as they plot the (future) boosters. For the rest of us, the really key question is disease burden.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

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        Yes. These vaccines are all home runs. Incredible fast home runs. Going by the trials (and taking trial date/place/size into account), I'm not sure there are consequential differences in their effectiveness—i.e. results in the world. We just need more. https://twitter.com/BRok_Horrible/status/1356748390734966786 …

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

        Let me put it this way. If we started random-blind vaccinating large groups (without anyone knowing what they got), I wouldn't be surprised that if, in a year, we wouldn't be able to easily tell which group was which if they were matched in timing/booster/vax period.

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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021

        I gotta finish a piece (*waves at editor*) but if I can match the symptoms across trials, I'll see if I can do a power calculation for the size of the trial group to be able to tell the differences between different vaccines through disease burden. They're all that good.

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      2. MrCheeze‏ @MrCheeze_ 2 Feb 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Wow, not even one?

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021
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        Not a single one. And the only "severe" one in Pfizer, for example, is someone who had 93% oxygen saturation. She didn't need any medical care. One more percent, and she wouldn't even be considered "severe".

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      2. Patrick Ruffini‏Verified account @PatrickRuffini 2 Feb 2021
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        The problem is that general public apprehension and restrictions are driven by cases, not hospitalization

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021
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        The cases are going down dramatically both in numbers and very much in severity in all the trials as well.

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      1. Richard Arthur Milton‏ @RichardAMilton 2 Feb 2021
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        Do you have the data by age group? Without that, don't know what to make of the numbers.

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      1. Walter Mannino Jr‏ @WalterManninoJr 2 Feb 2021
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        Thank you for sharing. I think we all needed some good news and need to look at life in an optimistic manner rather than Pessimism.

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