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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Mahesh 𑀰𑀸𑀲𑁆𑀢𑁆𑀭𑀺‏ @karatalaamalaka 2 Feb 2021

      Mahesh 𑀰𑀸𑀲𑁆𑀢𑁆𑀭𑀺 Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      One manifestation, in spring 2020, a LOT of smart people were parroting the claim that masks are bad because people might give themselves covid by touching their faces while adjusting them. This argument sounded clever and “Gladwellian” and made elites feel good about themselveshttps://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1356633389227458563 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @MDaware
      Unfortunately the "clever logic" thing as well as Gladwellian contrarianism is quite appealing to smart people. Also a misplaced Hobbesian view of the public. We see this again and again in history of disaster/emergency response (obviously including pandemics).
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Feb 2021
      Replying to @karatalaamalaka

      It was incredible. There was no logic whatsoever to it. (If touching your face *with a mask on* is a problem, what about breathing in and out in that environment *without a mask*? The idea made zero, zero, zero sense but got claimed and written up by experts, journalists etc.)

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        1. Looking for democracy in the USA‏ @Ray_Phenicie 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          Trump repeated the trope about: 'people touching their face while wearing a mask'. Of course once he puts a lie out there-for the truth, it's over.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/15/parsing-trumps-baffling-head-slapping-comments-mask-wearing/ …

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        1. The Dopamine Devil  🌱 and 629 others‏ @KevinMonk 2 Feb 2021
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          The Dopamine Devil  🌱 and 629 others Retweeted The Dopamine Devil  🌱 and 629 others

          So true. This dumb claim was everywherehttps://twitter.com/KevinMonk/status/1251670840506306563 …

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          The Dopamine Devil  🌱 and 629 others @KevinMonk
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          The concern is that you might touch the virus THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE GONE INTO YOUR MOUTH. 🤷‍♂️🤯
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        2. Allen Berman‏ @berman_allen 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          Who wants 2 remember Spring 2020?-OCD people washing their hands 20/30 times a day, mail not read 4 a wk, ALL delivered produce washed in soapy water, packages scrubbed with Lysol, delivered food transferred 2 your own containers, using gloves, & originals trashed immediately😂😂

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        3. mary beth‏ @MaryBethla 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @berman_allen @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          Still doing it- not getting shot at the end of the war

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        1. mary beth‏ @MaryBethla 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          I thin it was because there was SO much emphasis on hand washing and none on breathing the idea stuck around for way longer

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        1. Kristina Jovanovski‏Verified account @kjovano 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          And the position back then is still being defended as appropriate for that time, instead of acknowledging that it was a mistake.

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        1. chengjih‏ @chengjih 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          Likely source for thus: there's best practice in clinical settings to doff/don PPE that involves being very careful removing masks, etc. because of contamination. This seeped out into the public as "touching mask can spread germs on you and make the mask useless."

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        2. mariamali876‏ @mariamali876 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          Whoa. That hits home!! I too said that, based on concerns voiced by epidemiologist friends. I felt very special to have this insider knowledge. The only thing I can say in my defense, is that I recognized it pretty soon & stopped trying to be clever.

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        3. mariamali876‏ @mariamali876 2 Feb 2021
          Replying to @mariamali876 @zeynep @karatalaamalaka

          I even remember weighing forth at a picnic with friends - "well, actually masks can be risky." My partner said to me - that truly makes no sense. And I had to acknowledge, it really didn't. Just like explanations for fomite transmission as driving wedding superspreaders.

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        1. Laura Pritchard‏ @LJ_Pritchard 2 Feb 2021
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          So regular hand washing is irrelevant?

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