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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jan 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eric Topol

      I know this, too, is forgotten but not only did Dr. Rothe publish the report one year ago—and faced so much resistance—until it was too late, China had unmuzzled their scientists by then & when they published papers telling us about it, many experts here just wouldn't believe it.https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1353385306355982337 …

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      Eric TopolVerified account @EricTopol
      8. When Dr @camilla_rothe reported an asymptomatic transmission a year ago, the @NEJM report was refuted and disparaged. She was later named a TIME 100 Person of the Year https://time.com/collection/100-most-influential-people-2020/5888186/camilla-rothe/ … pic.twitter.com/keNVF2misD
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jan 2021

      This is how we spent January/February and a good portion of March, unfortunately. (In contrast, as I wrote in the latest @insight, Japanese COVID task force had most of the key elements—a/presymptomatic spread, aerosols, overdispersion—nailed by February). https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/26/health/coronavirus-spread-symptoms-chinese-officials/index.html …pic.twitter.com/0XPHq4iHxn

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jan 2021

      Japan did. We didn't. (Excerpt from the last @insight citing the latest Reuters investigation just released). https://twitter.com/MoniMoniOnse/status/1353399986000596992 …pic.twitter.com/23jsdOyiCR

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jan 2021

      Also, interestingly, understanding authoritarian regimes like China turned out to be a key skill. It's how one could easily surmise they were covering up human-to-human transmission before Jan 20 AND they were telling the truth about a- & presymptomatic transmission after that.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jan 2021

      (I'll write longer about the above point: I think it still hasn't sunk in how important it was to understand both governments and have a sense of social dynamics in evaluating medical evidence/claims in a "fog of pandemic" environment).

      10:00 AM - 24 Jan 2021
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        2. ace  🗯  🦚‏ @TradNorm 24 Jan 2021
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          So many well meaning people refuse to consider that China acted in bad faith during the pandemic. And still is.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jan 2021
          Replying to @TradNorm

          But once unleashed, Chinese scientists were amazing (on everything but the one issue they remain muzzled on: research into origins/market etc.) and we did not respect their work or sacrifice.

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        1. Jonas Persson‏ @BishopBlougram 24 Jan 2021
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          The Swedish Public Health Agency attacked her. The letter was an "embarrassment." Presymptomatic transmission was impossible because SARS-1 did not work like that. One year later, they insist that only people with symptoms are the drivers. Stay home when sick. No masks.

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        1.  💚 Jens-Petter Salvesen  🌍‏ @jpsalvesen 24 Jan 2021
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          Hack: Look at how the neighboring countries react and talk to their experts. They are better at reading the country and may have unofficial contacts to draw intel from.

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        1. George Darroch‏ @georgedarroch 24 Jan 2021
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          I said here many times at that point that if Chinese advice had been coming from London or Geneva many lives would be saved. Racism is a major cause of this pandemic.

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        1. Graeme Blake‏ @graemeblake 24 Jan 2021
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          Indeed. In Canada in late Feb it was pretty obvious, for example, that the US and Mexico were hiding cases by discouraging testing. Does this mean we shouldn’t trust American and Mexican scientists? No! It’s about understanding incentives in a system and where to believe/doubt

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