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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle and

      Did you write this suggesting scientists are being dishonest and empowering charlatans or not?pic.twitter.com/4TlQLp7AAi

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Erik Ness‏ @ErikNess 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      If you read this quote in the context of the op-ed from which it was taken, it was not necessarily directed at scientists, but at the conflicting messaging at the outset of this whole thing. At this point Pence had been in charge of all coronavirus messaging for nearly a month.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @ErikNess @zeynep and

      Well if it’s presented in a misleading context that’s unfortunate but in combination with at least one provably false statement about vaccines would seem to cut against this being a beneficial article!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @ErikNess and

      Look, this is a common response I get. I've been seeing this since December. People are being led to believe that we already know they do NOT reduce transmission. And this has become an antivaxxer talking point (why bother, it was bait and switch etc)pic.twitter.com/USp8rNZaMF

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ErikNess and

      Somehow intentions to get vaccinated have gone up since the vaccines were authorized is my understanding?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      As I said (politely repeating myself) I don’t doubt there’s been some misfiring but I see a lot of messaging of exactly the sort you’re saying we should do but claim is absent. And intended vaccine uptake is rising.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      I don’t see a lot of evidence (that tweet aside) that the crisis you’re alleging actually exists although I do think you’re working towards willing it into being. Amplifying the worst elements of messaging rather than the best etc

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @ErikNess and

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Hank Green

      If I thought it was one tweet or, say, rare, yep, I wouldn't bother and you'd be right. It kept getting worse! And noticing how such dynamics work in the public sphere is exactly what I do know and worry about. I'm hardly the only one to notice.https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1341165998674567169 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Hank GreenVerified account @hankgreen
      Not that it wouldn’t prevent that...just that we didn’t know yet. That has quickly morphed into, “It won’t protect against you infecting other people.” Which is also untrue. We just don’t know. We are attempting to communicate uncertainty, but it’s like people can’t hear it.
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    9. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ErikNess and

      As I said, I take your points and will reflect on how I frame vaccine messaging. I regret that you’re not interested in the impact your framing has on people in other fields trying to help the public understand the vaccines, and the pandemic overall.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    10. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      We can all probably do better, but not all of us want to.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @ErikNess and

      I think you overemphasize my impact. My particular constituency—and me sometimes— is perhaps frustrated, even mad at some institutions and maybe even some individual experts, but very, very much wants them to survive and be stronger.

      12:32 PM - 19 Jan 2021
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @stgoldst and

          Nobody is going from say, my articles, to not getting vaccinated because I criticized messaging or even was very, very frustrated with some WHO committees. The problem with messaging NYT article identifies though is pretty broad, and happens without wanting to harm. +

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @stgoldst and

          The individual incentives (media/attention, experts/personality) & the academic tendency (limitations sections, null-hypothesis training) is to emphasize the unknown, the downside. The problem isn't any single one is wrong but the collective consequence tilts in a particular way.

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