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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @tarahaelle and

      In this thread, I've responded to a claim that the NYT article (which I did not write) about the evolution of messaging was irresponsible and harmful. I completely disagree on that, and again, if deferring to expertise, this is very much a field where *I'm* the expert.

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    2. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle and

      Did you write this suggesting scientists are being dishonest and empowering charlatans or not?pic.twitter.com/4TlQLp7AAi

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @tarahaelle and

      Thank you for including the screenshot so it's clear exactly what I wrote. When people feel like they are not getting the full message from the authorities, of course, charlatans are empowered. This is a genuinely mundane point in study of medical mistrust and public health.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @stgoldst and

      I'll try again—there are tons of people providing examples, and we see this in communities I monitor, and even among health care workers. We are underselling the benefits of these vaccines in the messaging. No issue with uncertainty/warnings but on framing and emphasis.

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    5. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle and

      Look I didn’t come here to change your mind. But I hope you’ll consider whether the tenor of your criticisms are driving scientists out of the science comms space. I’ll think about whether my messaging is destructive. Candidly, I’m also thinking about checking out of the public

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      sphere and just getting through the next few months as best as possible. The relentless attacks from armchair experts and academics in other fields just takes a toll and at some point it’s not worth it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @tarahaelle and

      These are not relentless "attacks" though—that is a lane, and I could play there and I do not. This is how one makes things less attackable by misinformation. Also, understanding the public sphere and public trust isn't "another field".

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle and

      No vaccine efficacy on virus transmission is a different field from what you’re describing

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      “I could play there and do not” certainly sounds like a threat of some sort.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

      I would very much like to say vaccines are going to have a profound impact on transmission and I do understand why that would be great messaging. But the data to say it doesn’t exist as much as you want it to!

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @tarahaelle and

      I'm trying to politely repeat myself here but neither that article nor me, nor a single expert quoted is saying anything beyond "vaccines likely will have an impact but we don't know yet". I don't know how many time that can be repeated.

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        2. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @tarahaelle and

          Noted

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        3. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 19 Jan 2021
          Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep and

          “Wagon circling” and “groupthink” are similarly polite. Anyway I don’t doubt there are some experts misfiring on messaging but it’s curious those are the only ones you seem aware of.

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