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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jan 2021

      Good coverage of the latest messaging disaster, in a year with many. We are dramatically underselling the amazing vaccines, exaggrating the uncertainties and people trying to emphasize the good news are being drowned out, or worse.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/briefing/donald-trump-pardon-phil-spector-coronavirus-deaths.html …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jan 2021

      Future generations: “Wait what? They got vaccines with 95% efficacy for *any* disease and then spent the initial month of the rollout writing many articles about how it won’t change anything in the short term (rather than that point being a tiny footnote?).” Yes, yes, we did.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jan 2021

      And then there was social media drama, unworthy of middle school in its stupidity and viciousness, when people tried to highlight the positives, and tons of people who knew better wouldn’t speak out because.. they’re afraid of drama? Yes, yes.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Jan 2021

      Everytime I make these basic points, I get many people with the right credentials telling me to shut up and stay in my lane *and* tons of people also with right credentials quietly messaging me that of course this is true, but the drama... Well folks, speak up. It’s a pandemic.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021

      A day later, the responses to this (really overdue, since this has been a problem since December) article have ranged from some smarter, thoughtful folks thinking, oh, wait, let’s adjust messaging to “how dare an outsider write this! This is undermining public health!” Really.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021

      I’m not sure how this isn’t more obvious, but wagon-circling leads to groupthink (as we saw with many public health/expert folks and masks early on) and pointing out failings is NOT what leads to loss of confidence in experts, it’s the opposite. It’s the wagon circling.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Jan 2021

      Being wrong is okay, even if it is due to groupthink. Groupthink is common among expert communities, to be honest. Constant danger to all. Being tired is human and understandable. (We all are). Adjusting messaging is excellent. Wagon-circling? No, no, no. That’s how things fail.

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        1. andrew‏ @inertiate 19 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I would quibble with the messaging, too. But messaging didn't get us to where we are now. An executive branch with a (stated) herd immunity strategy + a Congress who refused to legislate to stop the virus are the main culprits. In this case, main cause > marginal cause.

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        1. Raffi‏ @rak3re 19 Jan 2021
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          This is what social media does. It’s the perverse incentive structure we’ve created. Pursuit of knowledge is only incentivized insofar as it aligns with pursuit of in-group status. Hence the wagon circling. Not many people are able to break through that incentive system.https://twitter.com/rak3re/status/1350435820881248256 …

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          Social media also has the perverse effect of bidding up the social value of adopting the wrong answer. Twitter’s primarily a public market where the status of individuals and groups gets traded. Conventional wisdom becomes the set of safe beliefs the high-status people invest in.
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        1. Tania J. Spencer‏ @TaniaSp05818956 19 Jan 2021
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          Agreed. Think for yourself. Although our family all got Covid, none of us got it in our lungs. Possibly because we adopted an extra measure to masks early on - we gargled and nasal-rinsed. Even the asthmatic kid didn’t get it in his lungs. Could be more than coincidence.

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        1. Chris Carvalho‏ @gorgepulse 19 Jan 2021
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          Public “health” in the US is a gigantic groupthink cluster-f***. They serve too many masters, especially businesses, who care more about profits than health & safety.

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