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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AbraarKaran and

      Same issue. People are afraid that if we tell folks not for now but probably soon, they’re afraid everybody’s just gonna throw off the masks. We don’t trust people, so we tweak the message to try to get them to do what we want them to do. And then wonder why they don’t trust us.

      4 replies 9 retweets 77 likes
    2. Abraar Karan‏Verified account @AbraarKaran 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @AaronRichterman @rvenkayya

      Also- departments of health in general that have to put out actual guidance to people on what they have to do are not going to be in the business of hedging on messaging in a “it might be OK soon” way— they will always play it conservatively for legal, political & other reasons.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. Rajeev Venkayya MD‏Verified account @rvenkayya 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @AbraarKaran @zeynep @AaronRichterman

      I’m in general agreement with your messaging, @zeynep @abraarkaran. For now the post-vaccination guidance to continue masking and public health measures doesn’t change because we just don’t know how much vaccination will impact transmission. 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    4. Rajeev Venkayya MD‏Verified account @rvenkayya 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @rvenkayya @AbraarKaran and

      The preliminary data from AZ and Moderna on prevention of infection is promising, but it’s far from 100%. Vaccines can reduce transmission in other ways, but we need transmission studies to quantify this and adjust public health guidance accordingly. 2/

      3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @rvenkayya @AbraarKaran @AaronRichterman

      Totally fine that recommendations don’t change now, in general. The problem is it’s becoming wisdom to say they don’t or we don’t know.

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    6. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @rvenkayya and

      What I’m seeing currently on Twitter is a US Senator and some other influential folks advocating for vaccinated folks to take their masks off, which resonates with many. I actually do think it’s really important at this stage of the pandemic to emphasize caution here

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @notdred @rvenkayya and

      What I am seeing, a lot, is people saying “we have no idea” and that vaccines will not reduce transmission. Both are false and misleading, and have spread a lot in the weeks I’ve been tracking it and have become an anti-vaxxer talking point.

      3 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
    8. Rajeev Venkayya MD‏Verified account @rvenkayya 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @notdred and

      I agree we shouldn't say those things, but we also can't say transmission will be reduced by 80%+, so practically speaking we're left with the guidance to continue masks + public health measures until we have more data.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @rvenkayya @notdred and

      Not only keep masking, I’m trying to get people to *up* their masking (lineage etc.). But why undersell the vaccines? It will reduce transmission, and once we vaccinate widely, it will also reduce community incidence. We need to talk about the end game. People are tired.

      1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
    10. Dr Ed‏ @notdred 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @rvenkayya and

      Fair, but if anything it seems people are jumping to the endgame so maybe it makes more sense to start laying out the paths that may be expected to get there

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Jan 2021
      Replying to @notdred @rvenkayya and

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Hank Green

      Right now, lots of people are hearing there is no end to this. Hank Green had a good thread on this back in December.https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1341165998674567169 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Hank GreenVerified account @hankgreen
      Not that it wouldn’t prevent that...just that we didn’t know yet. That has quickly morphed into, “It won’t protect against you infecting other people.” Which is also untrue. We just don’t know. We are attempting to communicate uncertainty, but it’s like people can’t hear it.
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        1. Aaron Richterman, MD‏ @AaronRichterman 16 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @notdred and

          Aaron Richterman, MD Retweeted Dr. Tom Frieden

          A lot of this. Which seems to me the opposite of what is appropriatehttps://twitter.com/DrTomFrieden/status/1350469935026360323 …

          Aaron Richterman, MD added,

          Dr. Tom FriedenVerified account @DrTomFrieden
          The plain truth is vaccination in the U.S. will take many months and won't magically end the pandemic.
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