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    1. Arieh Kovler‏Verified account @ariehkovler 13 Jan 2021

      Arieh Kovler Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      There's an irony that WhatsApp's new privacy policy is driving a mass exodus to, among other apps, the unencrypted-by-default Telegram. Yes, encryption ≠ privacy, but still.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1349347955975794689 …

      Arieh Kovler added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Telegram is NOT an "encrypted messenger." It supports end-to-end encryption ONLY if it is turned on (not by default) and ONLY for single-user chats, never for groups the way Signal, WhatsApp and iMessage do by default. I can't believe that this myth persists. https://twitter.com/wiczipedia/status/1349341628855693315 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @ariehkovler

      It's incredible that one *still* sees so many people refer to Telegram as "encrypted messenger". Wanting privacy from Facebook is fine but it's something completely different than end-to-end encryption and I can't believe we're still having to explain this basic fact!

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    3. Stacy Herbert  🇸🇻‏ @stacyherbert 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ariehkovler

      I believe it is more about the information newly available to app users about what data is collected.pic.twitter.com/3666QtWG0N

      2 replies 13 retweets 21 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stacyherbert @ariehkovler

      That chart is bullshit. WTF? Also omits the fact that Telegram can read your messages, and WhatsApp cannot. (I am no fan of Facebook and its privacy approaches). What on earth is that nonsense chart? Telegram hired a PR company or something to generate that???

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. Stacy Herbert  🇸🇻‏ @stacyherbert 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ariehkovler

      That is data provided by Apple’s App Store. I haven’t looked at the provenance of that particular chart but there are plenty out there this past week as Apple only just started providing more information on what data the apps collect from users.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stacyherbert @ariehkovler

      Where did you get the chart? It doesn't look right. Also where is the Android version?

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @stacyherbert @ariehkovler

      That chart looks like it's total bullshit to me, but I hope a security journalist does a real story on this.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Stacy Herbert  🇸🇻‏ @stacyherbert 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ariehkovler

      The Verge has done a story; it is Apple who is providing the privacy data. I assume their App Store knows which data is being pulled with any app?https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/14/22174017/apple-app-store-new-privacy-labels-ios-apps-public …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021
      Replying to @stacyherbert @ariehkovler

      You'll see Apple explicitly says it doesn't verify any of it. I can believe that Telegram collects different types of data but self-reported should not be how this works, plus unlike Signal/WhatsApp, Telegram can always read your group messages and all single messages by default.

      6:30 AM - 13 Jan 2021
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