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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nina Jankowicz

      Telegram is NOT an "encrypted messenger." It supports end-to-end encryption ONLY if it is turned on (not by default) and ONLY for single-user chats, never for groups the way Signal, WhatsApp and iMessage do by default. I can't believe that this myth persists.https://twitter.com/wiczipedia/status/1349341628855693315 …

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      Nina JankowiczVerified account @wiczipedia
      One consequence of the forced and self-deplatforming we're seeing is a mass exodus to encrypted messengers like Telegram. So far the US has mostly managed to avoid the widespread challenges that countries like Brazil, India, and Ukraine have faced in this vein. No longer.
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

      If folks mean non-public (say, unlike Twitter which is generally public), well Facebook groups are also non-public, much more widely used than Twitter already, and that is an *entirely different* distinction. Twitter DMs are also non-public and used a lot.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

      Also, folks, Durov (Telegram's founder) is NOT a free speech absolutist. Europol (EU law enforcement agency) has congratulated Telegram on how well it did to fight ISIS on the platform—they can do it if they want because TELEGRAM GROUPS ARE NOT ENCRYPTED. https://twitter.com/wiczipedia/status/1349351163284566016 …pic.twitter.com/CRzaimaPx2

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Stacy Herbert  🇸🇻

          So this has come to my attention. This chart appears like bullshit to me, i.e. incorrect plus omitting the obvious fact that Telegram can read the content of your messages while WhatsApp can't. Can a real security journalist do a piece on this please?https://twitter.com/stacyherbert/status/1349352588211351552 …

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          Stacy Herbert  🇸🇻 @stacyherbert
          Replying to @zeynep @ariehkovler
          I believe it is more about the information newly available to app users about what data is collected. pic.twitter.com/3666QtWG0N
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

          So the chart is *self-reported* privacy policy to the iOS app-store & Apple explicitly says "This information has not been verified by Apple." Also does not apply to Android. Folks, you want privacy from Facebook, sure! I've been on that beat forever. But let's get facts, not PR.

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Abdullahi Halakhe

          On the other hand zero sympathy from me for Facebook on privacy, to be honest. They deserve the reputational damage. But let's correct the record on Telegram. For security purposes, in my opinion, it is inferior by any measure except privacy from Facebook.https://twitter.com/QulshTM/status/1349363139486355462 …

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Jan 2021

          Anyway, back to your regularly-scheduled coup and pandemic for a moment, and a call to informed and competent security journalists to please write an updated explainer on all this. People are confused, and need reliable and trustworthy information.

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        2. Nina Jankowicz‏Verified account @wiczipedia 13 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          That was my poor attempt at a joke in reference to some inconsistencies in Telegram policies.

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        3. Sebastián‏ @chevyhrs 13 Jan 2021
          Replying to @wiczipedia @zeynep

          Sorry to interrupt. As far as I understand: groups can be private (encrypted but non-e2e) or public (there's a setting in each group). What they did regarding extremism was for *public* groups and channels. For non e2e chats, Durov recently addressed ithttps://t.me/durov/145 

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        1. gurl.‏ @Thotful_Musings 13 Jan 2021
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          WHAT

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        1. No Fizzy Drinks for Me Today‏ @artemgordin 13 Jan 2021
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          Also he is an opinionated super rich (yet ascetic) libertarian with no system of containment within his small company. He is known to have based his previous company content policies on his own personal views.

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        1. David Stalane‏ @davidstalane 13 Jan 2021
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          I had my fights with him years ago. He isn't trust worthy. That's all there is to it. Use Signal.

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        1. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 13 Jan 2021
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          Whether group chats are encrypted is mostly irrelevant to fighting organized movements since building a movement inherently requires recruitment, i.e. giving the key to untrusted new participants.

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