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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Jan 2021

      I put a lot on the line, personally, to advocate for mask-wearing when it wasn't US or global policy and spent an enormous amount of my life last year on trying to increase mask wearing AND I DEEPLY HATE THIS MESSAGE—with 44k retweets😱—BECAUSE IT IS WRONG AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.pic.twitter.com/l3UcG7lJud

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    2. Hamparsum Hampikyan‏ @HHampikyan 11 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Except the profanity, is it not somewhat true?

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    3. Ryan Horath‏ @therealrthorat 11 Jan 2021
      Replying to @HHampikyan @zeynep

      1) Mask compliance has been high most places. 2) There is no good evidence masks make much difference, if any. At best the data indicates they may make a marginal difference and only in specific scenarios. On a macro scale, there is little evidence they minimize spread.

      3 replies 0 retweets 27 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Jan 2021
      Replying to @therealrthorat @HHampikyan

      The second is just not true. They work, best as part of a multi-layer system of protections.

      3 replies 0 retweets 35 likes
    5. Ryan Horath‏ @therealrthorat 11 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @HHampikyan

      There is simply no good evidence for that. The only RCT found they at best work minimally, but the confidence interval was large and it was not significant. There is also no evidence that high mask wearing places are having less infections than low or no mask wearing places...

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Jan 2021
      Replying to @therealrthorat @HHampikyan

      No, you are totally misreading the research, and what the RCT can do in this context (the variable is population level so RCT not suitable).

      11:24 AM - 11 Jan 2021
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        2. Ryan Horath‏ @therealrthorat 11 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @HHampikyan

          I have seen all the research, and I am not misreading it, I can assure you that. Feel free to hit me with any research that proves otherwise. The research in favor of masks is very poor quality.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        3. w.o.‏ @wowwowza 11 Jan 2021
          Replying to @therealrthorat @zeynep @HHampikyan

          Population/policy studies that show mask mandates are correlated to lower rates. Which is what you'd expect from mechanical studies that show masks do reduce the distance particles travel. So when you combine with physical distancing, it seems logical you'd see these results.

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        2. David Bell‏ @bell00david 11 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @therealrthorat @HHampikyan

          Not mis-reading the research. Or the geographical comparisons. The real world evidence does not support transmission reduction. What there is suggests minimal or no overall impact. May be inconvenient and annoying, but science can be like that.

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        3. Classical libertarian‏ @x3r0h0ur 12 Jan 2021
          Replying to @bell00david @zeynep and

          So how did New Zealand and Australia, as well as SK eliminate the virus? Strictly contact tracing and isolation?? What of the evidence that masks reduce viral load and could be tied to the decrease (in part) in mortality since the start of the pandemic?

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