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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @ashishkjha

      And sorry but the epistemology stuff is slightly annoying. We've had three decades of assault on the regulatory state pushing for less evidence for public policies, particularly at FDA, eroding evidence base, while we pay higher prices than ever for what we get. 1/

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    2. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @zeynep @ashishkjha

      And the call: rely on real world evidence, other kinds of data, personalized medicine, because RCTs are the 20th century's tool. The same logic applies: people are dying we have to move more quickly, trade answers for access. 2/

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @zeynep @ashishkjha

      These calls for more epistemological flexibility and nuance play out in regulatory policies that are championed by the libertarian right. 3/

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
    4. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @gregggonsalves @zeynep @ashishkjha

      Gee. Why would you say that, Greg? http://www.robwiblin.com pic.twitter.com/XGnHWQnNoo

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

      This doesn't get far. There are lots of reasonable points made by people with agendas I'd disagree with. "Oh no a good point Y made by someone who's wrong on X" is not a way to debate, or even successfully oppose X. If anything, you're letting them have Y.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Merz and

      (Also this is why a lot of ideologies that should not have a chance succeed—because their foundations are weak—work so well in the public sphere—people think we can just ignore any point they may have. Recipe for letting them win).

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    7. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

      The thread is shallow and reductive. But hey, it does confirm your contrarian priors.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

      Everything I actually advocated for ahead of its time—before they were official positions—this pandemic is now global or US public policy. See, you're ceding all that ground to contrarianism. Okay! (I have no position on the delayed booster, as I keep telling you, just on trial).

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    9. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

      "Everything"

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    10. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @zeynep and

      And yes, you do have a clear position on the delayed booster. Essentially everything you've tweeted advocates for it.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
      Replying to @Merz @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

      Try reading. I have advocated for: masks, encouraging outdoors, emphasizing ventilation, recognizing aerosol risks, studying/targeting clusters and harm reduction. Absolutely proud of my record. On vaccines: I only advocated in favor of trials and not holding back supply.

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        2. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

          All or none of which might, with a decade's hindsight, be proven correct. At present they appear to be best practices but we do not yet know, in any of these cases, whether you will be fully correct in time. And one can be right through pure luck.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @Merz @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

          Yes, you got it. I'm purely a lucky lady! Thank you for recognizing my secret sauce! And yes, I have asserted that everything will be unchanged for decades to come! I'll go rearrange my evil eye collection now, gotta keep up. Cheers!

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Merz and

          I keep trying to tell you to ping the experts actually arguing about the delay, not me. But yeah, I wouldn't cede my record this pandemic to contrarianism because then it wouldn't be what it was but I can't do anything about what you think.

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        3. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

          I'm pinging you because you have a platform, you are not an expert, and you are clearly taking a position whilst claiming to be impartial.

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