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    1. Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH‏Verified account @ashishkjha 4 Jan 2021

      Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH Retweeted Robert Wiblin

      An excellent thread on epistemology What do we know and how do we know it? A narrow view of what we know, what is data can lead us into mental traps This is not about delayed vs immediate vaccine doses This is about what do we mean when we say, follow the science. H/T @zeynephttps://twitter.com/robertwiblin/status/1345800480144945152 …

      Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH added,

      Robert Wiblin @robertwiblin
      A serious reasoning error that is particularly common among educated people is to argue that if a study hasn't been done on a particular question we have 'no data', and therefore no basis on which to form beliefs or act. This is incorrect and dangerous. 1/
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
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      And thank you for being out there with reasoned discussion on this obviously thorny, complex topic. It's much easier to stay quiet or to advocate for what appears bureaucratically safe rather than dive into discussions of trade-off in the face of uncertainty and a dire situation.

      7:10 AM - 4 Jan 2021
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        1. Chris‏ @Walshman23 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ashishkjha

          At the risk of sounding like Marcia when Desi Arnaz, Jr. dropped by - seeing the two of you on this is a real bright spot.pic.twitter.com/8ixCCT6jXY

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
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          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Dr Nicole E Basta

          I also really liked this thread on how phase III trials provide crucial information but don't answer all the population-level questions—especially when facing a dire situation. Whatever we do, I hope it's done while collecting data so we can adjust ASAP.https://twitter.com/IDEpiPhD/status/1345176257995165696 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Dr Nicole E BastaVerified account @IDEpiPhD
          As you consider the #COVID19 #vaccine debates about 1 vs 2 doses, timing of 2nd dose & dosing w/ 2 diff vaccines, keep in mind there is no "right" answer & there are gaps in the evidence such that we may not know which is the "right" answer for a long time. Why not? A 🧵… 1/
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        3. Mark Abraham‏ @urbandata 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ashishkjha

          Mark Abraham Retweeted Mark Abraham

          I'm concerned the intense focus on vaccine distribution questions may distract from item #2 on this list, which according to @IHME_UW models and evidence from Europe would save orders of magnitude more lives than even a more rapidly-deployed vaccine could.https://twitter.com/urbandata/status/1346120879672012802 …

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          Mark Abraham @urbandata
          Independent CDC/FDA Uniform #COVID19 mitigation Fund #covidvaccine distribution Prioritize aid for K12 education National sick leave Pandemic readiness COVID-19 Pandemic Priorities for @Transition46: New @MichelleM_Mello &Cohen @MilbankFund https://www.milbank.org/quarterly/opinions/covid-19-pandemic-priorities-for-president-elect-biden/ … @gregggonsalves
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        2. Gregg Gonsalves‏Verified account @gregggonsalves 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @ashishkjha

          We've all been diving into these trade-offs, even if we think a shift from a regimen with documented, robust efficacy to one with less certain effects is unwise. Juxtaposing it as "reasoned discussion" vs "bureaucratic safety" is your own value judgment coming into play here.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jan 2021
          Replying to @gregggonsalves @ashishkjha

          There *has* been a lot of bureaucratic safetyism—not just talking about the vaccine debate—but obviously that doesn't mean everyone I disagree with is doing that. (Moreover, in this case I don't even have the basis to defend strong opinion on either side).

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