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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jeffrey Flier

      One problem is the people telling us to just “follow the science” rarely seem to understand the interaction between things science can and has resolved and the unknowns and trade-offs that cannot be resolved by appeals to “The Science.” They’re often using science as a talisman.https://twitter.com/jflier/status/1345417443909500931 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jeffrey Flier @jflier
      Could not agree more with this statement by @MonicaGandhi9. I’ve been doing science for 45 years and find public/media use of “follow the science” to be shallow and counterproductive - deployed to suppress needed debate on issues that require it. https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1345297748451463168 …
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    2. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @benyt

      Agree with this. I think a better way to think of it is “Start with the science.”

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
      Replying to @chrislhayes @benyt

      The problem is it's both true and not, but in a very complicated way. We need to be evidence and scientific-theory driven. Of course. Many important questions for which both are incomplete. Some of those—even with clarity—involve inevitable trade-offs that need political choices.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes @benyt

          "Listen to scientists". Doesn't work that well either, because give me a question and I'll find you a scientist with the right credential who disagrees with most. Often they are cranks who should have retired long time ago. Sometimes they have a point. How to tell them apart?

          2 replies 2 retweets 30 likes
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes @benyt

          As a talisman though, it isn't just ineffective, it's counterproductive. How is an ordinary person supposed to navigate this? That's why CDC, WHO etc have to be stellar; we need the synthesizing authorities who can navigate the thicket on our behalf & fight for earning out trust.

          2 replies 4 retweets 27 likes
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        1. ZUMA #EndTheFilibuster  🌹 🌞‏ @NeilYoungSaveUs 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes @benyt

          science is first to admit it doesn’t have all the answers.

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        2. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @benyt

          Right: there’s no escaping value judgments, and politics. But there’s a difference between “there’s no reason to think seniors in nursing homes are at elevated risk” and “we don’t really care if seniors in nursing homes die by the hundreds of thousands.”

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        3. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @chrislhayes @zeynep @benyt

          A lot of deliberate (though vile) value judgments are being cloaked in science denialism, just as a lot to overbearing hectoring cloaks itself as “the science.”

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        1. Awake and Alert  ☕️‏ @dontmeanathing 2 Jan 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes @benyt

          Science is fundamentally based on evidence and rigorous critical thinking. It is a process, a method for justifying belief. There is always uncertainty because all beliefs are subject to falsification. People don’t understand this is a strength and it should *inform* policy.

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        1. Glenn Runnalls‏ @RunnallsGlenn 2 Jan 2021
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          All pandemic responses as experiments. Scientists may be called upon to help design and study the responses for effectiveness, but the experiment has its own ecology that cannot be framed or studied as a scientific experiment.

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        1. russellstigall‏ @russellstigall 2 Jan 2021
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          Science + philosophy is a part of the solution

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