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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @stgoldst and

      Every interview I've done on the topic has 1. praised the triumph of the vaccines, 2. said they will likely reduce transmission but we don't yet know so use caution for now, and 3. said that assessing protection against infection should be the first priority.

      3 replies 2 retweets 24 likes
    2. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @stgoldst and

      And I also spoke at the Pfizer/BioNTech adcomm about how we could use serology to assess that. I think it's incorrect to say that because we aren't speculating on data we don't yet have that we are enabling anti-vax misinformation. Everyone I know has discussed this at length.

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @stgoldst and

      All this started because *I've* pointed out it was good to say "they will likely reduce transmission but we don't yet know so use caution for now". I assure you that message is not getting out the way it needs to. I can point to individuals who say it, but I see what's out there.

      3 replies 2 retweets 28 likes
    4. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @stgoldst and

      Dr. Angela Rasmussen Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Further up in the thread you said that scientists were focusing on the gloom of the unknown & that misinformation is thriving because we fail to communicate nuance. Now you say we are communicating that nuance but it's somehow not getting out? I'm confusedhttps://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1339581692802199552?s=20 …

      Dr. Angela Rasmussen added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @zeynep @BogochIsaac and 2 others
      The problem is people don't feel confident in saying "look these are the indicators but here's why we gotta wait" and think that if we say that, everyone will go all reckless. In reality, I think not communicating the nuance/data is what leads to dismissal and recklessness.
      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    5. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @zeynep and

      Anti-vaccine advocates are claiming that scientists are saying the vaccines won't prevent transmission, but most scientists are not actually saying that. Anti-vaxxers are creating false narratives. It's wrong to claim this is solely an issue of failed communication by experts.

      1 reply 3 retweets 24 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @stgoldst and

      Who said "solely"? But yes, absolutely, not communicating the nuance, complexity and the timeline of what we do and don't know is exactly what misinformation and wariness thrives on, and countering it requires look at what's happening out there beyond what an individual has said.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    7. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @stgoldst and

      I agree with that, but it's not just an individual communicating the nuances. It's *most* experts interviewed on the topic. What data do you have that this message is not getting out there, other than anti-vaxxers being predictably loud about it?

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @stgoldst and

      Part of what I do is monitor the public conversation around these topics, both because I'm out there writing and also because studying the public sphere/information ecology is what I do (well used to do more of!) before the pandemic.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

      The reasons I keep urging individuals is that the top-down messaging is already not great, and media/social media swung from denialism to alarmism (NYT sent a push alert for a single adverse event yesterday), and people *are* confused.

      3 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Hank Green

      I forgot to circle back but others have the same impression as me on what the message had “morphed into.” As I said, I monitor these things and no doubt there were people (like you!) who said what I praised in the first tweet. But what he is saying below has been happening.https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1341165998674567169 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Hank GreenVerified account @hankgreen
      Not that it wouldn’t prevent that...just that we didn’t know yet. That has quickly morphed into, “It won’t protect against you infecting other people.” Which is also untrue. We just don’t know. We are attempting to communicate uncertainty, but it’s like people can’t hear it.
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      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Natalie E. Dean, PhD

      Also Natalie has a nice thread, with more excellent framing.https://twitter.com/nataliexdean/status/1341438223084441600 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Natalie E. Dean, PhDVerified account @nataliexdean
      As @hankgreen nicely points out, we have to be careful that "we don't know whether the vaccine reduces transmission" doesn't morph into "the vaccine doesn't reduce transmission." How do we communicate this uncertainty? A few thoughts. 1/7 https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/1341165997294637056 …
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