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    1. Darius Tahir‏Verified account @dariustahir 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      Well, as is frequently the case the online debate and the real-life debate proceeded on parallel tracks without any interaction.

      2 replies 0 retweets 44 likes
    2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @dariustahir

      I bet that is not the case.

      1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
    3. Darius Tahir‏Verified account @dariustahir 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      I don’t really think it played a role in the latest recommendations.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    4. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @dariustahir

      I would bet money it did.

      5 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. Brendan Nyhan‏Verified account @BrendanNyhan 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Noahpinion @dariustahir

      that a few Nate silver tweets changed what the ACIP did???? paging team health care journalism @HelenBranswell @emilyakopp etc. can't believe that would be true.

      3 replies 0 retweets 30 likes
    6. Helen Branswell‏Verified account @HelenBranswell 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BrendanNyhan @Noahpinion and

      Not true.

      1 reply 0 retweets 46 likes
    7. Brendan Nyhan‏Verified account @BrendanNyhan 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @HelenBranswell @Noahpinion and

      Brendan Nyhan Retweeted Noah Smith  🐇

      clarification; what about this?https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1340836278846144514?s=20 …

      Brendan Nyhan added,

      Noah Smith  🐇Verified account @Noahpinion
      Replying to @BrendanNyhan @dariustahir and 2 others
      I don't know about Silver; I was talking about Yglesias' blog post.
      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BrendanNyhan @HelenBranswell and

      Of course it had no impact. (I talked and wrote about it before Yglesias did; my blog piece isn't paywalled and, no, it had no impact; neither mine nor Matt's. The age prioritization topic was very much already on the agenda; Germany and UK just came out with recs; WHO had recs).

      1 reply 3 retweets 81 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @BrendanNyhan and

      I mean, I think these are important topics and deserve public scrutiny and discussion broadly, but it wasn't a few blog posts the day before the ACIP meeting that had any impact, and Helen is right. That said, now states will be doing their own thing so the topic needs attention.

      1 reply 1 retweet 49 likes
    10. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @BrendanNyhan and

      You don't think public exposure and scrutiny affected their decision-making process at all? According to @halvorz the the public debate was alluded to at the meeting, and @Neoavatara says they were monitoring it.

      5 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Noahpinion @BrendanNyhan and

      I listened to the whole thing. The people in the committee are not last-minute to this at all. Also, the updated prioritization must have been set days ago. A Twitter kerfuffle isn't it. That said, again, I think this is a question of public concern as public buy-in is crucial.

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        2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @BrendanNyhan and

          Hmm! Anyway it's an interesting question, and if I can I'll try to track down a credible source on their internal decision-making process. But whatever the reason, I think the final outcome looks pretty good!

          3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
        3. Matt Darling  🌐 💸 🌇‏ @besttrousers 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Noahpinion @zeynep and

          I'm a bit confused by this. The deliberations are public, right?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Jody Lanard MD‏ @EIDGeek 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @Noahpinion and

          No one who is a newbie at following ACIP can remotely imagine how much preparation the members do, and how much they solicit and consider outside views from an incredibly wide range of stakeholders. If these were your first ACIP meetings, you got a good intro to how it works.

          2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @EIDGeek @Noahpinion and

          Yes, impressive. The questions were excellent. Real debate, too. But there’s clearly a lot left to work out. The guidance is still very high level. And then 1c awaits.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
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