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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH‏ @ykramerezha 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ENirenberg @zeynep

      That is a fundamentally different proposal. It is irresponsible to discuss these complexities in an NYT op Ed piece. The US has failed because of a cacophony of public health voices that have confused the public. Every self proclaimed vaccine/PH expert wants to voice his opinion

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    2. Edward Nirenberg‏ @ENirenberg 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ykramerezha @zeynep

      I think that that's a very reductive perspective regarding the failure of the US response. I would also add that the authors of this piece are not "self-proclaimed" experts, and multiple other experts also want to see data from a single-dose regimen.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH‏ @ykramerezha 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ENirenberg @zeynep

      I respect Zeynep but she calls herself an amateur epidemiologist. Dr. Mina confuses marketing with epidemiology & a test with a public health strategy. He stated he can end the pandemic in 3 weeks without TETRIS but with rapid testing. He has been called out by top pandemicists

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    4. Edward Nirenberg‏ @ENirenberg 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ykramerezha @zeynep

      That is irrelevant to the salient point; they are calling for an additional clinical trial of a single-dose regimen in parallel to the current plans that everyone receive a two-dose series. What, specifically, is incorrect about this?

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Edward Nirenberg‏ @ENirenberg 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ENirenberg @ykramerezha @zeynep

      If we could do one dose instead of two - the vaccine would be less reactogenic - you wouldn't need to rely nearly as much on patient compliance (returning for a second dose) - if efficacy were sufficient, you could immunize twice as many people with greater public health gains

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    6. kfunk937‏ @kfunk937 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ENirenberg @ykramerezha @zeynep

      Similar questions, and associated research, led to rational, well-supported changes in Gardasil dosing recommendations. After the research was done.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH‏ @ykramerezha 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @kfunk937 @ENirenberg @zeynep

      The authors should have directed their concerns to the vaccine experts and decision makers at BioNTech/Pfizer either directly or through Science/Nature/NEJM. Theirs is a very obvious point rather than an insight. This is a science discussion rather than science communication

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    8. kfunk937‏ @kfunk937 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ykramerezha @ENirenberg @zeynep

      I take your point.

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    9. Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH‏ @ykramerezha 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @kfunk937 @ENirenberg @zeynep

      Their point may well prove helpful. But now hundreds if not thousands will skip the second dose. Many doctors may give one shot only to help their patients. This is guaranteed to cause confusion.

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    10. Edward Nirenberg‏ @ENirenberg 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ykramerezha @kfunk937 @zeynep

      I think time will bear out the extent that this is true. I can't imagine physicians administering the vaccine to their patients will elect to forgo a second dose on the basis of this op ed.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @ENirenberg @ykramerezha @kfunk937

      I don’t see it happening. If anything, giving the broader info environment where politically powerful people are proposing this without a trial, I would guess this message would be a useful counterbalance.

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