(Waves from one of those states) - No org is perfect and definitely not during a pandemic of a novel respiratory virus. The WHO supports a ton of research to continuously improve. Focusing on their failures instead of our own distorts from not only their actual role, but ours.
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Replying to @SaskiaPopescu @Ryan_Mac_Phd
I don’t understand this bit. We here are not the administration. Of course they are not to be scapegoated for US admin failure. But we’re not the ones refusing to enact masks. I’m talking about countries who did not have mask mandates at all because of World Health Organization.
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I mean if anyone says the US failed because of the World Health Organization, I’m with you totally. I don’t see anyone anywhere near that allegation on what we’re discussing.
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Replying to @zeynep @Ryan_Mac_Phd
Honestly, I’ve seen several who haven’t been working in public health say that bc the WHO won’t acknowledge certain things to the specifications they want, they’re not effective and are endangering people.
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Replying to @SaskiaPopescu @Ryan_Mac_Phd
I can’t talk about others but what I’m talking about the very specific things. Saying no need to wear masks indoors if separated by a mere meter, three feet—that got corrected about 10 days ago. People had been trying since last March/April to update that. Took this long.
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I’d just add that, regardless of WHO’s advice, around the world countries have enacted policies as they’ve seen fit regardless of their health care infrastructure or WHO membership. In the US, most people who don’t wear masks give zero thought to WHO recommendations.
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This is exactly what you’re missing. There are entire countries who will only do what the WHO recommends. If WHO recommendations didn’t matter, that would be a whole other tragedy but that’s kind of where we’re headed unless they’re fixed.
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Which countries are we talking about? Because I’m well aware of the WHO’s role in LMIC countries with regard to shaping policy and standing up public health responses. And few countries have fared as poorly as the US.
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Replying to @angie_rasmussen @zeynep and
If the measure of failure is “not wearing masks indoors” or “not emphasizing ventilation” then sure. But if the measure is per capita prevalence and COVID deaths, then one could make the argument that those LMICs have done considerably better than the US.
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Replying to @angie_rasmussen @zeynep and
And from there, that the WHO’s recommendations are just that: recommendations, not absolute determinants of responses or policy at the national or community level.
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That’s right and the countries that disregarded their recommendations early are doing better which is a tragedy worth fixing! (Again nobody’s doubting the US has failed miserably)
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