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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. jonstokes(\.com|\.eth)‏ @jonst0kes 9 Dec 2020

      jonstokes(\.com|\.eth) Retweeted Jesse Singal

      This is a really good question. I can't think of one. I'd say "me" but I'm no longer really a "prominent tech writer" -- more like former/sometimes tech writer. Anyone have names to suggest?https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1336698932357902336 …

      jonstokes(\.com|\.eth) added,

      Jesse SingalVerified account @jessesingal
      Who are some prominent tech writers who have expressed skepticism that more robust moderation/deplatforming can really 'solve' the problems introduced by social media, or who have argued that it is likely to cause more harm than good?
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jonst0kes

      Wait, who are the ones arguing that more robust moderation or deplatforming can “solve” the problem?

      1 reply 0 retweets 21 likes
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @boztank @jonst0kes and

      I’m asking the opposite. Who actually argues that merely more robust moderation and deplatforrming would “solve” the problems?

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. Mike Masnick‏Verified account @mmasnick 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @boztank and

      I don't think anyone argues that it will *solve* the problem. But I do think many, many writers argue that failure to moderate [pick a random anecdote] is proof that a company does nothing or doesn't care about societal problem x. And that implies moderation would somehow help.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    6. Ben Thompson‏Verified account @benthompson 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @mmasnick @zeynep and

      Yes. The assumptions baked into “news” articles about company moderation decisions are steeped in the assumption that censorship is ipso facto good, and by extension don’t even acknowledge the possibility that preserving free expression is a driving consideration.

      1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @benthompson @mmasnick and

      I'm going to say that the critics have been way, way beyond that kind of simplistic argument for a long time. For clarity, I doubt either of you are against any and all moderation?

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    8. jonstokes(\.com|\.eth)‏ @jonst0kes 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @benthompson and

      I think "against any & all moderation" is also a strawman. The issue is scale. If I moderate 100K people, I'm a moderator. If I moderate 1B people, I'm a censor.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jonst0kes @benthompson and

      I agree! I was saying I don't think it's anyone's serious position. Therefore everyone is for some degree of moderation, and even deplatforming, as it were, with real differences in how and where, and different levels of concern about the downsides that are widely acknowledged.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jonst0kes and

          But that said, I don't think the issue is that simple, between moderation and censorship. Many moderation decisions on the 2B people platforms (well, FB) often impact small numbers of people.

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        3. Mike Masnick‏Verified account @mmasnick 9 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jonst0kes and

          Summary: there's a lot of nuance here, and trying to frame/discuss it all in a tweet is probably not helpful. 😀

          4 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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