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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      James Surowiecki Retweeted Rex Chapman 🏇🏼

      1. Rick Santelli says that "500 people in a Lowe's aren't any safer [from Covid] than 150 ppl in a restaurant that holds 600."https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1334894131286585358 …

      James Surowiecki added,

      Rex Chapman 🏇🏼Verified account @RexChapman
      Things escalated quickly on CNBC this morning. This is fantastic...https://twitter.com/FirenzeMike/status/1334887072159641603/video/1 …
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    2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      2. A standard Lowe's store is 112,000 square feet, with what, 50-foot ceilings? A restaurant the size Santelli is talking about is maybe 9000 sq. feet., with 10-foot ceilings (being generous). So, obviously, ppl in restaurants are packed more closely together.

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    3. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      3. More important, people in a Lowe's are generally moving, not standing, and even when in line are only there for a short period of time. In a restaurant, you're literally breathing each other's air in a relatively small, enclosed space for an extended period of time.

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    4. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      4. Everyone in a Lowe's is (or at least should be) masked. In a restaurant, you're inevitably going to be maskless when you eat. People in restaurants talk much more than people in a Lowe's, which facilitates aerosol transmission.

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    5. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      5. So - and I can't believe I have to say this - 500 people in a Lowe's are so much safer from catching Covid than 150 people in a restaurant that the level of risk isn't even in the same ballpark.

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    6. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      6. Santelli's statement is roughly the same as saying a person in an SUV traveling 25 miles per hour is as likely to get hurt as someone on a motorcycle traveling 80 mph - while not wearing a helmet. It's just a stupid, false thing to say.

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    7. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 4 Dec 2020

      James Surowiecki Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      7. Helpfully, @zeynep just wrote about a South Korean study showing just why indoor dining is so dangerous. Rick Santelli should read it.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1334641685154902021 …

      James Surowiecki added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      A study from Korea showing why indoor dining is unsafe and why airborne transmission matters. Case B infected case A from 6.5m (~21 feet!) away in *just five minutes*, and case C from 4.8m (15 feet!). Footage shows no interaction—and only those in line of air flow got infected. pic.twitter.com/Yw3Gb8INWP
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    8. flipforchips‏ @flipforchips 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @zeynep

      @WesPegden flagged some very astute concerns about the extrapolations from this study by @zeynep. I encourage you to read them before you tweet this out.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @flipforchips @JamesSurowiecki @WesPegden

      I encourage you to read my responses to him, and my longer piece onhttps://zeynep.substack.com/p/small-data-big-implications …

      10:39 AM - 4 Dec 2020
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        1. flipforchips‏ @flipforchips 4 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @JamesSurowiecki @WesPegden

          I read and enjoyed your back and forth with Wes - do you not think his points have validity, and that context would be helpful to share with any (re)tweets of the study? Thanks for sharing the longer piece, looking forward to reading it tonight with an open mind.

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