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    1. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @asymmetricinfo and

      The idea of vaccines being a job requirement is not theoretical. It's already imposed extensively on health care workers (and also on students) (and also as a condition for entry to foreign countries) and doesn't seem to have led to a dystopia.

      5 replies 11 retweets 155 likes
    2. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jbarro @michaelbd and

      And I think Michael's concern may be self-limiting. The airlines had to be nudged into banning smoking and most of them (not Delta) have gone back to 100% capacity. I actually don't think most airlines will impose a vaccine requirement if not required by the FDA.

      3 replies 0 retweets 27 likes
    3. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jbarro @michaelbd and

      The vaccine requirement won't be practical until well into next year when the vaccine is available to everyone who wants it; if prevalence is far down by then, I am not sure the market will actually support a requirement.

      1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
    4. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jbarro @michaelbd and

      I mean to say the FAA there.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Megan McArdle‏Verified account @asymmetricinfo 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jbarro @michaelbd and

      However, if there are a lot of refusers, and prevalence doesn't go down as much as we'd hope, things may get sticky.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Michael Brendan Dougherty‏Verified account @michaelbd 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @asymmetricinfo @jbarro and

      It’s not going to be the market that asks for this, but hypochondriacs.

      4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. Josh Barro‏Verified account @jbarro 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @michaelbd @asymmetricinfo and

      Sure but people who don't want to get the vaccine (or don't want to have to prove they got it) are in the market, too.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jbarro @michaelbd and

      I think we’re overlooking a real danger here—that exaggerated and misframed media chatter about vaccine hesitancy may actually make things worse. There are multiple reasons to think we can avoid these hypotheticals with good policies including better framed media attention.

      2 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jbarro and

      If the initial readouts hold up, and especially for the mRNA ones, we won't need any of this complicated enforcement mechanisms. Well, unless we screw it up by screaming about it in the worst possible way starting now, thus ensuring entrenchment & more opportunities for misinfo.

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    10. John Drazan‏ @Sports2STEM 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jbarro and

      I was thinking that exact thing when I saw this @VOANews headline today. It's terrible framing.pic.twitter.com/kuGaSjZQRr

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Sports2STEM @jbarro and

      Yep, this is similar to school/mass shootings. How we talk about it and frame it now can make things unnecessarily worse—which is a pity because at least in countries with mRNA access (likely the wealthy ones) this may be mostly moot and self-correcting via example.

      11:14 AM - 3 Dec 2020
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