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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @DrJaimeAnne @samhorwich and

      So we disagree. I don't really encounter many experts who claim one meter is enough indoors, and even the CDC and WHO have moved beyond that finally, and I think we have clear evidence on what the public is seeing and doing, and we have the guidelines right in front of us.

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    2. Jaime Anne Earnest‏ @DrJaimeAnne 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @samhorwich and

      @zeynep I think you’ve far overstated my position in your recap. My points aren’t to do with the veracity of recommendations, they’re to do with the amount of assuredness we get comfortable with in a highly evolving evidence landscape.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @DrJaimeAnne @samhorwich and

      For example? What would you avoid?

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    4. Jaime Anne Earnest‏ @DrJaimeAnne 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @samhorwich and

      1) assuming exactly what public risk response and info processing looks like right now 2) comms w/ certainty around rts of transmission—>epi dynamics—>disease severity 3) wildly vacillating btwn eviscerating govt. public health and begging for trust in govt. regulated vax.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @DrJaimeAnne @samhorwich and

      Okay. I'm going to disagree on 1 and 3. I think we have a lot of evidence. On 3, I believe taking them to task is the best way to improve trust, because whatever we don't push to fix will get weaponized by people whose goal is merely to create mistrust, not fix things.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @DrJaimeAnne and

      In other words, mistrust breeds where there is failure, and circling the wagons doesn't help because fixing failure is the actual path to trust. On 2, I'm with you. I don't think there's any need to claim certainty. Totally possible to communicate nuance and unknown.

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    7. Jaime Anne Earnest‏ @DrJaimeAnne 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @samhorwich and

      @zeynep I hear you. The balance between accountability, trust, and reliance is the world I live in here at Federal Academia. 😬 I think it’s such a critical discussion and as always, happy to hash out with you in longer form for our thoughts.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @DrJaimeAnne @samhorwich and

      Indeed. It's a problem with many institutions; they need to be defended/fixed, but also the failures recognized. Journalism is another example. Very strong tendency to want to circle the wagons (because of all the terrible attacks!) but also makes it harder to strengthen.

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    9. Jaime Anne Earnest‏ @DrJaimeAnne 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @samhorwich and

      Absolutely. And I wonder often about how to navigate and optimize the balance of accountability and trust in shifting crisis landscapes. Wish there were a CBA that could handle it. Coffee break over for me, back at it. Lovely to talk with you again as ever! Speak soon. ❤️

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    10. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @DrJaimeAnne @zeynep and

      I agree wholeheartedly with both of you that key to building trust is to be honest and accountable about where these institutions have failed, as well as to be upfront about what is known with a high degree of certainty and what is still research in progress.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @DrJaimeAnne and

      Indeed. I think too much (unwarranted certainty) decreases trust. Better to say, this is the preponderance of evidence as best we see it, here's usable intuition about it, and then have some guidelines that aren't as binary as some we have now.

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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

          (I don't like blanket mask mandates for outdoors, for example, I think better to say "when can't maintain distance" for outdoors but seems sensible to have blanket mandates for indoors where risk is clearly higher).

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        1. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 2 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @DrJaimeAnne and

          Absolutely. IMO the false dichotomies often used to frame various recommendations are one of the biggest obstacles to communicating nuance.

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