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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Dec 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Trevor Bedford

      Dear journalists and 🚨-tweeters, please don't write definitive sounding stuff from single studies—especially when the claim is bold—without waiting for the scientific community to react and also without noting limitations the *authors* point out themselves. It's been ten months!https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1333647449987063809 …

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      Trevor BedfordVerified account @trvrb
      The authors highlight the study's limitation due to "potential cross reactivity with human common coronavirus infection" in the paper's discussion, but it unfortunately didn't make it into the @WSJ story (https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-likely-in-u-s-in-mid-december-2019-cdc-scientists-report-11606782449 …). 9/10
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Dec 2020

      There's been *so much* damage from media outlets rushing to publish definitive sounding articles with bold headlines from what are kinda-maybe-let's see articles or papers with issues that soon get interpreted better—and then all the sensationalist twitter accounts amplifying it.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Dec 2020

      It's been ten months. Just stop please. The bolder the claim, the more time, context and evaluation is necessary. People are quick to spot other kinds of misinformation problems *over there* but this one is widespread *over here* among people who believe they are not misinformed.

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        2. Andrew Revkin  🌎  ✍🏼  🪕  ☮️‏Verified account @Revkin 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          !! @zeynep's so right dinging media rush to the #frontpagethought in pre-review #covid19 research findings on #SARSCoV2, vaccines, masks & more. I've offered a label system that might help (media can't ignore such stuff but *have* to signal clearly! https://twitter.com/Revkin/status/1259165805343911938 …pic.twitter.com/rbl0DBhR54

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        3. Andrew Revkin  🌎  ✍🏼  🪕  ☮️‏Verified account @Revkin 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Revkin @zeynep

          The rush to post on hot cutting-edge science - especially with online #instanet news pressures - is not new. Here's a string of instances around #climatechange. A key challenge in the social/online era is covering with context. https://j.mp/prereviewpublicity …pic.twitter.com/Uxz8x1IoZv

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        2. Trevor Bedford‏Verified account @trvrb 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Thank you Zeynep! I saw this WSJ article getting shared around uncritically in a number of circles. CDC stamp + WSJ gives this unjustified authority (relative to the data in the manuscript).

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @trvrb

          Thank *you* for jumping in! Yes, on the one hand, first-known case is in China is Nov. 19 so okay-maybe-let's-see but the authors themselves note limitations *plus* so many single-studies with bold claims turn out not to be so... Tragic that media still does it like this.

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        2. Arguably Wrong‏ @arguablywrong 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          The counterpoint to this is that decisive action on incomplete information is a necessary part of a fast-moving crisis. I'm tired of seeing scientists asking for 95% certainty instead of 60% to make a recommendation, waiting 6 months, and then being too late to do any good.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @arguablywrong

          Agreed. But there's a way to do that without this. The opposite of "where is the perfect RCT if it's missing let's not take sensible steps with a lot of evidence" isn't pedal-to-the-metal reporting or tweeting. If anything, the latter hurts attempts to correct the former.

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        1. Mr Standfast‏ @perisb 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          This has been true for ~all~ medical studies filtered by the msm, for ~decades~.

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        2. Alexander Riccio (#covidco2 tracker)‏ @ariccio 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          They've been doing this with science forever. I remember someone did an experiment once, and made up an obviously bullshit study that kinda slightly said there was some evidence chocolate makes you lose weight,

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        3. Alexander Riccio (#covidco2 tracker)‏ @ariccio 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @ariccio @zeynep

          They got it published in a sketchy journal, and it was in headlines around the world. There were like 1,400 articles written about it, all were uncritical announcements of the new weight loss effects of chocolate! Only one reporter ever called about it.

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