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    1. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020

      These conversations were about the variances in professions and how we approach the term, but more importantly - what it means for the public, for HCWs, etc. This is bc we’ve spent decades working on public recs/comms, and know the importance of scicomm (2/3)

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    2. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020

      Ultimately, none of the recs change - masking/distancing/hand hygiene/avoiding crowded indoor spaces/ventilation/disinfection. Moreover, this emphasizes the importance of cross-disciplinary collab & not gatekeeping or credentializing bc our approaches and needs vary. (3/3)

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @SaskiaPopescu

      "None of the recs change" is not at all my experience, or what I've been hearing from all over the country. If anything, look at the fake "outdoor/indoor" restaurants still popping up. We have failed terribly in scientific communication of this crucial topic.

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    4. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @SaskiaPopescu

      While I agree that science communication has failed in this regard, "outdoor/indoor" restaurants are not being recommended by anyone. Saying a virus is "airborne" isn't a recommendation and it doesn't provide any actionable solutions.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @SaskiaPopescu

      The fact that the restaurant owners go ahead with these and people go into them shows our communication has failed. Giving people correct intuitions about the virus is what science communication is about. So many other examples, too.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen @SaskiaPopescu

      Maybe people who work in hospitals or are in the scientific community understand the details but not the public. It's almost December of 2020 and places are still closing for cleanings without addressing ventilation. I think this is dramatic and profound failure of communication.

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    7. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen

      I think the issue is that we focused on singular comms and not the additive nature of risk reduction. @samhorwich’s point is spot on too. In an effort to make the comms easy, it can be very specific and fails to explain the reasoning behind it.

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    8. Jeremy Chrysler‏ @jeremychrysler 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @SaskiaPopescu @zeynep and

      Having 20% of the population actively rebelling against comms and actions that prevent transmission makes the job much harder.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @jeremychrysler @SaskiaPopescu and

      It sure does. Which is why using straightforward, specific terminology to communicate recommendations is essential to providing clear, comprehensible guidance.

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    10. MaximusDerrick‏ @misguidedsoul7 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @jeremychrysler and

      This was @GovMurphy on Nov 11, regarding dining bubbles. It is still the guidance.. they are "allowed." While it's not a recommendation to go, it is imo sending the wrong message about ventilation, and I'm sure he consulted with PHP, but this messaging is not goodpic.twitter.com/8RJfnlXYSq

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @misguidedsoul7 @angie_rasmussen and

      Yep. Terrible. But hard to blame political authorities and the public when public health authorities have botched the communication part. People following the right scientists on Twitter may get it, but not so for the public.

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        1. MaximusDerrick‏ @misguidedsoul7 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen and

          💯💯💯agree

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        2. Sam Horwich‏ @samhorwich 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @misguidedsoul7 and

          Don't underestimate the role of political pressure among public health leaders, many of whom are political appointees. For example, almost all public health medical officers would favor measures like a mask mandate and closing bars, but are not empowered to make those calls

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        3. Sam Horwich‏ @samhorwich 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @samhorwich @zeynep and

          The wave of resignations and burn out we've seen aren't just from threats or intimidation, it's the incredibly frustrating inability to implement clear and straightforward non pharmaceutical interventions

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        2. covid is airborne‏ @cbr160 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @misguidedsoul7 and

          I live in CT & I listen to Cuomo & Lamont daily updates. Both emphasize mask wearing & often make it sound like masks alone are enough. I’ve told teacher friends to add air purifiers to class rooms & they all say that’s not in guidance but lots of cleaning of surfaces is.

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        3. covid is airborne‏ @cbr160 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @cbr160 @zeynep and

          School districts based their guidance on state guidance - not sure those have been updated since issued.

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        2. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @misguidedsoul7 and

          Also, who are the “right scientists”? I think there’s a lot of room for improvement from health agencies and this has been a testament to the need for transparency and scicomm, so I’m hopeful we’ll collectively improve.

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        3. Sam Horwich‏ @samhorwich 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @SaskiaPopescu @zeynep and

          What I think most people meanb when criticizing the messaging coming from the medical/public health community has to do with masking (specifically the need for N95s) and not focusing enough on ventilation. They point to East Asia as the prime example of effective communication

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