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    1. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020

      One of the things we do in infection prev/epi is community-based education. From the beginning, convos about the use of “airborne” were about the meaning & how we explain it in the context of a novel ID. This is why the @CDCgov has taken such care to discuss situational arbne. 1/

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    2. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020

      These conversations were about the variances in professions and how we approach the term, but more importantly - what it means for the public, for HCWs, etc. This is bc we’ve spent decades working on public recs/comms, and know the importance of scicomm (2/3)

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    3. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020

      Ultimately, none of the recs change - masking/distancing/hand hygiene/avoiding crowded indoor spaces/ventilation/disinfection. Moreover, this emphasizes the importance of cross-disciplinary collab & not gatekeeping or credentializing bc our approaches and needs vary. (3/3)

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @SaskiaPopescu

      "None of the recs change" is not at all my experience, or what I've been hearing from all over the country. If anything, look at the fake "outdoor/indoor" restaurants still popping up. We have failed terribly in scientific communication of this crucial topic.

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    5. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @SaskiaPopescu

      While I agree that science communication has failed in this regard, "outdoor/indoor" restaurants are not being recommended by anyone. Saying a virus is "airborne" isn't a recommendation and it doesn't provide any actionable solutions.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @SaskiaPopescu

      The fact that the restaurant owners go ahead with these and people go into them shows our communication has failed. Giving people correct intuitions about the virus is what science communication is about. So many other examples, too.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 30 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen @SaskiaPopescu

      Maybe people who work in hospitals or are in the scientific community understand the details but not the public. It's almost December of 2020 and places are still closing for cleanings without addressing ventilation. I think this is dramatic and profound failure of communication.

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        2. Dr. Saskia Popescu‏Verified account @SaskiaPopescu 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen

          I think the issue is that we focused on singular comms and not the additive nature of risk reduction. @samhorwich’s point is spot on too. In an effort to make the comms easy, it can be very specific and fails to explain the reasoning behind it.

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        3. Jeremy Chrysler‏ @jeremychrysler 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @SaskiaPopescu @zeynep and

          Having 20% of the population actively rebelling against comms and actions that prevent transmission makes the job much harder.

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        2. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @SaskiaPopescu

          I understand that and I agree that communication has failed. However, that is different from making recommendations. Both CDC and WHO have recommended ventilation for months, but this is not being presented to the public in a way that is actionable.

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        3. Jeremy Chrysler‏ @jeremychrysler 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @angie_rasmussen @zeynep @SaskiaPopescu

          Businesses and schools are going down a checklist, in many cases one that was made in early Summer. If something checked, an org is doing "what they can." If "maintain 10 feet of distance" or "keep CO2 <600ppm" were on those lists it would have helped.

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        2. Ashley Matt‏ @ashleymatt 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @InfectiousDz and

          Airborne precautions are different from droplet precautions. The CDC (and WHO) treated this as a flu-type transmission for far too long.

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        3. Theo Allen - Universal Masking  💉x3‏ @UniversalMaski2 1 Dec 2020
          Replying to @ashleymatt @zeynep and

          The WHO and CDC have different PPE recommendations for HCW. CDC recommends N95. WHO (+ NIH and IDSA) say N95 only for AGP.

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        2. Koen‏ @KoenSwinkels 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen @SaskiaPopescu

          Focus on disinfection over ventilation & creating outdoor tent-like structures may be more result of liability issues than communication fail: They have to comply even with dumb regs (excess disinfection) & as long as they technically comply w/ regs they can get creative (tents).

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        3. Koen‏ @KoenSwinkels 30 Nov 2020
          Replying to @KoenSwinkels @zeynep and

          Probably some restaurant etc owners who are willing to take reasonable measures against CV think current regs go too far given actual risk. They would reopen indoors w/ some ventilation/filtration improvements but regs say no. So they get creative bc they think risk is acceptable

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