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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. parker‏ @pt 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @MikeIsaac

      Do journalists consider it offensive if people talk publicly about themselves when they know they’re about to be written about? I don’t understand what the breach of trust is.

      6 replies 10 retweets 354 likes
    2. rat king‏Verified account @MikeIsaac 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @pt

      A lot of this is just basic comms strategy questions. An outlet comes to a company ahead of the story in good faith to get advance answers to questions, with the understanding that company company won’t give up the story or facts before it is published.

      29 replies 0 retweets 60 likes
    3. parker‏ @pt 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @MikeIsaac

      Ok. I wasn’t aware that was the understanding on facts shared for response. It’s not like the NYT is gonna stop calling to fact check though, so I can see why they might not see tons of downside at the exec level. Maybe the coms people feel bad & will be hurt, but not their call.

      2 replies 0 retweets 43 likes
    4. rat king‏Verified account @MikeIsaac 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @pt

      well that’s the gamble they make. Maybe before nyt would give CB days to figure things out or get their response together. The next call maybe be “we need your comment within one hour.” All goodwill is gone

      24 replies 0 retweets 37 likes
    5. Felix Salmon‏Verified account @felixsalmon 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @MikeIsaac @pt

      There is a bit of a double standard though. Journalists say “I can report everything you tell me any time I want, unless we have an explicit ex ante agreement otherwise”. And yet they also expect companies to keep information secret with no such agreement.

      5 replies 10 retweets 314 likes
    6. Felix Salmon‏Verified account @felixsalmon 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @felixsalmon @MikeIsaac @pt

      CB can’t say “well, tell us what you’re going to say and when you’re going to say it, and we’ll prepare a blog post to go up 1 minute later in response.” NYT would never agree to such a deal.

      5 replies 2 retweets 113 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @felixsalmon @MikeIsaac @pt

      Also, what’s the downside for CB? What’s the sanction? Shorter heads up time?

      1 reply 0 retweets 32 likes
    8. Felix Salmon‏Verified account @felixsalmon 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @MikeIsaac @pt

      It’s not tit-for-tat. But all companies including Coinbase work hard on building good relations with the press, for myriad reasons. This action damages those relations.

      7 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    9. Joe Weisenthal‏ @TheStalwart 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @felixsalmon @zeynep and

      Is this considered unethical?

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    10. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @TheStalwart @felixsalmon and

      Yeah I think this theory is pretty bizarre. Unless there's an explicit agreement to the contrary I think the subject of a story has every right in the world to preemptively react to the story.

      4 replies 4 retweets 242 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @NateSilver538 @TheStalwart and

      Yes. If anything, I think the journalists have an ethical duty to remain above the tit-for-tat despite any preemptive response. Journalism is the one with a claim to a public service (which I believe in and support). The company has no corresponding claim or obligation.

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        2. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @TheStalwart and

          Yeah, agree 100%.

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        3. Felix Salmon‏Verified account @felixsalmon 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @NateSilver538 @zeynep and

          CB doesn’t claim public service? https://blog.coinbase.com/culture-at-coinbase-fe510fe9c098 …pic.twitter.com/7pdvpkpnmw

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        1. Henry Porter‏ @HenryPorters 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538 and

          If journalism ethics were a real thing, there would be a licensing board.

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        1. Frank Loves Nancy‏ @nancylovesfrank 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538 and

          Some form of internationally recognized membership board of peer accredited organization - with a certification that can be displayed on internet/social media as well as broadcast and print media, please.

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        1. Russ Stauffer‏ @rustydusty55 26 Nov 2020
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          You’re like the oracle, Z.

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        1. Steven Klaiber-Noble‏ @snoble 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @NateSilver538 and

          Fwiw I think the ethical duty comes before the tit-for-tat choice. If a journalist or their organization cares about not being front-run they should just not give anyone the opportunity to. Putting the opportunity to betray your trust on the table is convenient but bad.

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