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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Steven Mazie

      I realize these restrictions were already eased but... I don't see how any locale can restrict religious service if it has indoor dining or bars open. If anything, the former can be done with masks. That said, it should be noted that singing/choir indoors is especially high-risk.https://twitter.com/stevenmazie/status/1331838731893043201 …

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      Steven MazieVerified account @stevenmazie
      Tonight the Supreme Court's nine members—who are conducting oral arguments remotely from their homes—said New York may not impose a 10-person limit on attendance at houses of worship in COVID hotspots.
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    2. Dave‏ @DZkhammer 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Here are the red zone rules that were the subject of the court case. https://abc7ny.com/covid-19-ny-new-york-zone-restrictions/8201176/ …pic.twitter.com/prj7j999Bj

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2020
      Replying to @DZkhammer

      What is an essential business? And again, our rules should be calibrated to risk. I'm not making a legal comment so legal people can discuss that part.

      8:54 AM - 26 Nov 2020
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        2. Andres Salomon‏ @Andres4NY 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @DZkhammer

          https://www1.nyc.gov/site/sbs/businesses/covid19-business-tips-faqs.page#essential … Apparently the supremes made reference to bike shops, but I haven't read the ruling. Bike shops in NYC are absolutely essential, as food delivery workers rely on them.pic.twitter.com/EhavQsffx7

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        3. Andres Salomon‏ @Andres4NY 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @Andres4NY @zeynep @DZkhammer

          Andres Salomon Retweeted Seattle Bike Blog

          Here's the reference:https://twitter.com/seabikeblog/status/1332006484482297857 …

          Andres Salomon added,

          “It is time — past time — to make plain that, while the pandemic poses many grave challenges, there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues and mosques,” Justice Gorsuch wrote.
          Seattle Bike Blog @seabikeblog
          Bike shops aren’t hosting large congregations of people. They are keeping people’s bikes rolling. And people rely on bikes for transportation. Note how he didn’t scoff at car mechanic shops being open. pic.twitter.com/lvi65hizd5
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        2. Dave‏ @DZkhammer 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I think liquor stores are the one people complain about the most (including Gorsuch). But buying wine is much lower risk than going to church.

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        3. Chris Mommsen‏ @ChrisMommsen 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @DZkhammer @zeynep

          I get the liquor store complaint since liquor is not healthy. But the obvious result of a liquor store closure would be people packing liquor stores before the closures and then crossing state lines or buying on the secondary market so costing them would be counterproductive

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        2. Mark Frassetto‏ @MarkFrassetto 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @DZkhammer

          Doesn't bars and restaurants being closed negate your entire point?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @MarkFrassetto @DZkhammer

          No. They were open until very recently. With what justification?

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        1. Myrto Ashe MD MPH‏ @myrtoashe 26 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @DZkhammer

          I think we have been using a measure that combines risk with "usefulness," or what harms come from closing something. This has been very confusing to people but isn't it something we need to do? I understand that people see usefulness differently, but one could set parameters.

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