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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Nov 2020

      Things one could cautiously do in summer are much higher risk now. Cold and humidity affect the survivability of the virus. A nationwide surge means regions cannot bail each other out. I've always advocated for the least restrictive precautions possible. Right now, it's serious.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Nov 2020

      There's been undue doomsaying. We should acknowledge the good news. There's been unwarranted scolding. Let's recognize the fatigue. There's been misplaced measures—parks closed, indoor dining open. We still don't have the leadership we need. But here we are. Protect yourself.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Nov 2020

      Real talk: The next few months are looking like a terrible time for COVID. Seasonality means more infections; holidays are a potential national superspreading event; there is no aid to help people stay home and no better masks; and overloaded hospitals will mean worse mortality.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Nov 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Sleve McDichael

      Safer than indoors, as usual. But everything is higher risk during a surge: more chances of encountering someone infected. Plus winter air may be aiding the virus. Plus overloaded hospitals mean worse outcomes. Wear a good mask everywhere around people not in one’s small bubble.https://twitter.com/Cubafrita/status/1327640754307665920 …

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      Sleve McDichael @Cubafrita
      Replying to @LaurenPelley @zeynep
      Outdoors distanced still relatively safe?
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Nov 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted  😷 Christopher Peters  💉

      I would disagree. The constant predictions of doom and superspreading from beach and outdoor events were not helpful, and are part of the reason we don’t have credibility to warn people when it counts and about what counts. Which is now and Thanksgiving and Christmas travel. 😢https://twitter.com/statwonk/status/1327994973057290243 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

       😷 Christopher Peters  💉 @statwonk
      Replying to @zeynep
      > undue doomsaying. Heh, I’m not so sure about that.
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    6.  😷 Christopher Peters  💉‏ @statwonk 15 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      A much larger problem in proportion is having a president lie constantly about the virus. It’s true the cost of an unintentional inaccurate message is high, but what of the intentional ones? My critique here is that you’re bypassing a larger cause in favor of a smaller one.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Nov 2020
      Replying to @statwonk

      I can't do anything about the president; but the public health community including our official agencies and even some of the people the new administration is calling up (who are otherwise good) did exactly what I said. Misinformed.

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    8.  😷 Christopher Peters  💉‏ @statwonk 15 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      I’m all for removing costly errors in understanding, but it’s better to be safe than sorry when uncertainty is high. Hindsight’s always 20/20.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Nov 2020
      Replying to @statwonk

      There was no uncertainty about beaches, it was just alarmism and scolding.

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    10.  😷 Christopher Peters  💉‏ @statwonk 15 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      No uncertainty? What’s the motive in your view?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Nov 2020
      Replying to @statwonk

      Scolding. Puritanism. Virus theater. Polarization. Clickbait.

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        1.  😷 Christopher Peters  💉‏ @statwonk 15 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Being a tattletale doesn’t win one many favors. I think it stems from ignorance. As a species, we start with Minimax when the stakes are high. Then as we learn, we relax and incorporate uncertainties. It’s the nature of learning during an emergency.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimax 

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        2. We are all Intensive Porpoises‏ @RepAmWatch 15 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @statwonk

          I have difficulty believing officials here in traumatized CT had any such malice in their decisions regarding park and beach closings, and restrictions on outdoor gatherings. “Abundance of caution” comes to mind. I base my outdoor distancing on observation of a smoker’s cloud.

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        3.  😷 Christopher Peters  💉‏ @statwonk 15 Nov 2020
          Replying to @RepAmWatch @zeynep

          Same here. It’s probably slightly conservative, but it’s better to be cautious and use new reliable info to find better proxies. Atm, that info is apparently scant to nonexistent.

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