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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Nov 2020

      I have a new article in the New York Times discussing lack of randomized trials for masks for source-control for COVID. In my newsletter, I discuss what this debate/debacle reveals, not just about COVID denialism, but also about our public health response.https://zeynep.substack.com/p/on-randomized-trials-and-medicine …

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    2. Wes Pegden‏ @WesPegden 8 Nov 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      I take issue with the claim that "no harms... plausibly exist". How confident are you there will be no developmental delays among the toddlers spending all days in childcare in masks? 95%? 99%? What about possible socialization issues for school children in masks for years?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Nov 2020
      Replying to @WesPegden

      I don’t understand or support mandating masks for toddlers. Nor really outdoors either unless can’t distance. It’s a real problem for hard of hearing and that’s important to try to address. The longer article I link to says all this.

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        2. Wes Pegden‏ @WesPegden 8 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I know *you* don't, but apparently others do, and how do we sort out the disagreements as executives implement sweeping requirements without legislative involvement? It seems hard if we disclaim the need for empirical evidence on the quantitative nature of harms/benefits.

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        3. Sylvia Fogel MD‏ @FogelSylvia 9 Nov 2020
          Replying to @WesPegden @zeynep

          Another issue that comes up peripherally in the piece when discussing healthcare worker study is cleanliness of masks. People in community wearing dirty masks and touching constantly. We must consider increased exposure to pathogens in this respect.

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        1. D'ARAMITZ‏ @2ndNewMoon 8 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @WesPegden

          I design masks, any that work w/SARS-CoV-2 will have it explicitly stated on the packaging, respiratory illnesses are with a predominance of pathogens in small particles (<5 μm). Without ventilation an N95 respirator will eventually fail. Read the packaging.pic.twitter.com/nvH1jh4Egx

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        2. Sylvia Fogel MD‏ @FogelSylvia 9 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @WesPegden

          Masks are being required and mandated in these contexts. Undermines the importance of masks in indoor settings and neglects the possible harms to young kids—socially & b/c of dirty masks that are being touched dozens, if not hundreds, of times per day.

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        3. Zachary Pincus, PhD‏ @zacharypincus 18 Nov 2020
          Replying to @FogelSylvia @zeynep @WesPegden

          If the point of community masking is primarily source control, does it matter as much if they get touched by the wearer?

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