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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Nov 2020

      Outdoor dining is better. But do note that this is a greenhouse, not outdoor dining. Excellent option with your pod that you'd otherwise be indoors with. But this setup in Chicago—which also inexplicably closed the vast beaches but not indoor restaurants—is not outdoors dining.pic.twitter.com/uqsrxhZNzk

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Nov 2020

      The article is appropriately titled Americans increasingly, "Have No Idea" where they are catching the virus. Yes, the high community transmission will overwhelm tracing. But we should do a better job communicating the risk! It's October!https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/31/us/coronavirus-transmission-everywhere.html …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Nov 2020

      The point of outdoor dining in a pandemic is not to make you colder than you'd be indoors! It's to dilute the aerosols in the air that people emit when they talk or breathe: a higher risk consideration for indoor dining since one cannot wear a mask while eating!

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Nov 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Smile4Chomsky

          Actually yes, sorry, it's November! Of course. Heh. It's November 2020 and we're still not giving people the right intuition about the relative risks.https://twitter.com/Smile4Chomsky/status/1323693101853020167 …

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          Smile4Chomsky @Smile4Chomsky
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          its november!
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Nov 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ferris Jabr

          See this thread. Stuffing people into greenhouses is not a good idea compared to a proper set-up: heat lamps, awnings, open air (as Ferris notes).https://twitter.com/ferrisjabr/status/1323693707535642624 …

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          Ferris JabrVerified account @ferrisjabr
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          Personally, I really don't think we should be describing small tents/bubbles as "excellent options" even for families/pods. Someone could be sick & asymptomatic/not know. Difficult to protect servers. Still need to air out after every use. Too many unneeded risks. Instead..
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        2. Evan Schiff‏ @schiffty 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I can’t imagine this is anything but dangerous for the servers who have to go into all of these contagion pods

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @schiffty

          Yeah, hopefully it is a brief exposure plus that's when the door is opened but yeah

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        1. LeonardJamesAkaar 🧢‏ @LJAkaar67 3 Nov 2020
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          seismic retrofit downstairs is forcing me to flee my apartment for the day I've found a couple of coffee shops with outside patios, but I wonder if it's safe to park myself there, or anywhere, for several hours....

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        2.  💚 Jens-Petter Salvesen  🌍‏ @jpsalvesen 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          So, just get take-away if it's too cold to sit outside?

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        3. Dominique Heinke is off bird watching or something‏ @Epi_D_Nique 3 Nov 2020
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          Yes

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        2. m_hughes‏ @m_hughes 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          On this point...how much better/worse is eating inside if all your windows were open vs eating outside and you can maintain some distance from the party outside your pod.

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        3. Dominique Heinke is off bird watching or something‏ @Epi_D_Nique 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @m_hughes @zeynep

          Outside >> Inside windows open >> inside windows closed. Adding a hepa filter nearby indoors can also help.

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        2. Gentleman Scientist Wannabe‏ @awrobinson79 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Think of cigarette smoking. If people were smoking outdoors, the smoke disperses and no one is bothered (mostly). On the other hand, smoke indoors and the smoke is more likely to hang around. Same with COVID aerosols.

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        3. wiguyinmn‏ @WIguyinMN 3 Nov 2020
          Replying to @awrobinson79 @zeynep

          Granted, we’ve spent 15 years or so telling people it’s reasonable to be offended by others smoking in OUTDOOR spaces (🙄) so the confusion is absolutely to be expected.

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