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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020

      Another article making the rounds complaining about pandemic "epistemic trespassing", unironically quoting a medical expert who has adamantly & baselessly claimed masks would induce false sense of security—to great harm. For "trust the experts" to work, experts need to deliver.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020

      We're nine months into this, and the WHO guidance on masks has errors (they have refused to correct), it took months of pushing and into October for them to finally add some ventilation advice to the public, the CDC was pushed, too and "false sense of security" refuses to die.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020

      It's true! Epistemic trespassing can be terribly dangerous—especially paired with overconfidence or ideology. But the expert community should realize what's opening the floodgates is partly their failure. We *want to* trust the experts Fix that, instead of circling the wagons. 🙏

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        1. Sanford May‏ @sanfordmay 31 Oct 2020
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          John M. Barry. Or more lately, Max Brooks. Tho I have seen some laymen wear PPE like it’s God mode.

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        1. I'm Flowerchild‏ @imflower_child 31 Oct 2020
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          True. Else we are seeing more dieticians, emotional health coaches (self-proclaimed *coughs*) monetizing their YouTube accounts telling us about how to cope the pandemic for ^free^ All because the experts are 🙄

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        2. Cuneyt Kazokoglu‏ @ckazok 31 Oct 2020
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          Can it just be because the whole issue is simply not that simple and stretches across multiple scientific disciplines? And because we are *still* learning a lot? Just saying. Expert bashing is nice and good for RTs and FAVs but comes in most cases from people on "mount stupid".

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        3. Alain Trahan‏ @trahana 31 Oct 2020
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          Only partly, the main reason is one field didn’t want to listen to another field that was showing how spread in aerosols was easy. And they knew, as evidenced by trump’s own admission to Bob Woodward.

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        2. Laughed A Bastid‏ @Sloggabin 31 Oct 2020
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          We live in an age where the task would be something degrading intended to insult rather than to extract anything helpful

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        1. rajku‏ @rajku 31 Oct 2020
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          But there are other successful instances too. The aerosol scientists contributing to the knowledge of transmission routes. For eg you being an compt sc and sociology brought s fresh perspective towards the discussion and tilt scales towards accepting the aerosol and ventilation.

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        1. The drudgery of daily labor resumes‏ @Bugs_Meany 31 Oct 2020
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          "the expert community" Maybe stop calling them that there is wide variance of opinion on matters between experts in every field. the idea of consensus is a political one.

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        1. agearlessjoe‏ @samboqshed 31 Oct 2020
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          And when you try to engage in a scientifically disciplined conversation you automatically get classified as Trump supporter.

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