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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Marion Koopmans‏Verified account @MarionKoopmans 31 Oct 2020

      A very interesting read on epistemic trespassing, experts moving into other areas assuming they know because they are smart. Sharp observations and thought-provoking. And recognizablehttps://www.forbes.com/sites/madhukarpai/2020/10/30/pandemic-or-not-experts-need-to-be-self-aware-and-humble/ …

      34 replies 73 retweets 288 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020
      Replying to @MarionKoopmans @michaelmina_lab

      Ironically, quoting a medical expert who has claimed, baselessly and relentlessly, that mask wearing would induce a false sense of confidence in the public, and was very late to responding to other evidence as well, and has long been cited by the anti-mask crowd because of that.

      6 replies 4 retweets 42 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @MarionKoopmans @michaelmina_lab

      I *do* agree with the dangers of epistemic trespassing but trust the experts isn't working either. WHO still has not updated public-facing guidelines on ventilation (and has errors in it) and its mask guidance is full of errors they have refused to correct. CDC was pushed. Etc.

      2 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
    4. Matthew Noah Smith‏ @MattNoahSmith 31 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @MarionKoopmans @michaelmina_lab

      I think that experts also are poor at policy construction since they often assume their epistemic authority is widely recognized as a basis for practical authority. But it’s not and often their policy proposals are unconnected to a more systemic understanding of values and ideals

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020
      Replying to @MattNoahSmith @MarionKoopmans @michaelmina_lab

      I'm just in a jaw-on-the-floor citing of a person who's been profoundly wrong and/or slow to great detriment and harm in a "trust the experts" article. That's why people don't trust the experts, and that's what opened up the floodgates to epistemic trespassing—justified or not.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @MarionKoopmans @michaelmina_lab

      I don't disagree about the dangers of epistemic trespassing! No kidding. We had Nobel laureates with BS articles in PNAS. We have grifters and ideologues everywhere. It's a terrible situation. But one key reason is that experts screwed up and do not have epistemic authority.

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        2. Matthew Noah Smith‏ @MattNoahSmith 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @MarionKoopmans @michaelmina_lab

          Then they aren’t even experts!

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        3. Diaminedave‏ @davecoopcourier 31 Oct 2020
          Replying to @MattNoahSmith @zeynep and

          ? Experts not allowed to be wrong. Careful

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