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    1. Ethan Zuckerman‏ @EthanZ 27 Oct 2020

      Ethan Zuckerman Retweeted The Washington Post

      But wait, I thought the airlines told us that flying was perfectly safe! I am certain their research is the best and most objective in the field!https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1320827686240030721 …

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      A seven-hour international flight to Ireland this summer has been linked to 59 cases of coronavirus in the country, Irish researchers say https://wapo.st/35y3z8x 
      6 replies 9 retweets 52 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Oct 2020
      Replying to @EthanZ

      I don't think we're interpreting this totally correctly, though. On the one hand, maybe but it's not shown. On the other hand, the denominator is many millions of flight. It's possible that we have one flight with two/three groups of positive people rather than flight contagion.

      3 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
    3. Ethan Zuckerman‏ @EthanZ 27 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      It's certainly possible. But given the different ways the virus can spread, close proximity - as in an airplane - is probably something that should be avoided if possible. The airline industry has a strong interest in reinforcing safety, but I don't think we should be so certain.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Oct 2020
      Replying to @EthanZ

      I'm actually surprised how few confirmed breakouts there are, and I think there is a real reason--airlines filter air very aggressively.

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. Burcu Bozkurt‏ @BuBozz 27 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @EthanZ

      Or we have subpar contact tracing. Or both. Lack of evidence that there were no cases does not mean there were no cases.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Oct 2020
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      At the beginning, I'd say the same thing but I think after nine months, lack of evidence begins to say something more than we don't know, despite, agree, the subpar tracing. Of all environments, plane transmission events are among the easiest to identify.

      8:08 AM - 27 Oct 2020
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