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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Michael Mina

      We're headed again to ~1,000 deaths per day and there's uncontrolled spread in multiple regions. Remember, the reduced death rate is because of therapeutics and better clinical management—available only if hospitalized. At this rate, we'll overrun hospital staff/capacity again.https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1320468341698580487 …

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      Michael MinaVerified account @michaelmina_lab
      This is incredibly sad and bad news for the US. In only 3 days, the 14-day average change in #COVID19 HOSPITALIZATIONS has skyrocketed from 7% to 15%! This means hospitalizations are not simply increasing but accelerating upwards at a fast pace. 1/ https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1319119516517924864 … pic.twitter.com/rCsNsE9Esa
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

      You can't magically expand hospital capacity because it's not just space: we're short of qualified medical staff and multiple regions with spikes limits transfers. Plus medical personnel have been at it since March. And many coronaviruses are seasonal—this may well be another.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

      The whole point of "flatten-the-curve" in March was to give us some breathing space while hospitals caught up with the cases, advanced their knowledge, and our governments put in the proper infrastructure. Not spend the rest of the year in magical-thinking land. What a tragedy.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      I don't understand what the UK is doing, either. You can only travel five miles (what happens to the virus in mile six? Is it afraid of distances?) but you CAN go into an indoor pub, but you must be seated (virus has vertigo?). What is the logic? https://twitter.com/mcelhearn/status/1320699357608448002 …

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

      When/if a place overruns hospital capacity, we see people delaying crucial treatment & preventive care, and being under-treated. And we're heading into flu season in the Northern hemisphere (Europe, too). I get that some fumbling is unavoidable early on but this is just failure.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted keep your electric eye on me

      Right, except this is about seven months behind the science—well, nine for Japan. Distance isn't protective enough indoors, especially in a poorly-ventilated pub. And the number of miles between houses or the pub is irrelevant to the virus.https://twitter.com/murakamiwood/status/1320701323982098432 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      keep your electric eye on me @murakamiwood
      Replying to @zeynep
      The logic behind the seating thing is that it's a proxy for physical distancing: more people can pack the bar if they are standing. Of course the seating rule doesn't guarantee enough distance and it's still inside... but that's the reasoning.
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Digital Naturalism

          Yep, we may teach germ theory in schools, but our hearts have not moved away from illness as sin. Governments seem to think if we can just punish and scold people and prevent fun, we can overcome this—instead of, you know, treating it like a pathogen.https://twitter.com/HikingHack/status/1320702245013495809 …

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          Digital Naturalism @HikingHack
          Replying to @zeynep
          In Panama we finally just ended Gender based segregation (which made no fucking sense), + they just opened the beaches yesterday, but now they are threatening to shut down again because "police saw several people drinking beer on the beach" Too many think covid caused by fun.
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Oct 2020

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted The COVID Tracking Project

          Second day with above thousand deaths reported for the United States. And this, with much better therapeutics and clinical practice. And we're headed into fall/winter and more indoors.https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1321946899918647297 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          4 bar charts showing key COVID-19 metrics for the US. First, daily tests (1.3 million today). Second, a record number of cases (89k today). Third, currently hospitalized (46k today). Fourth, deaths (1,049 today).
          The COVID Tracking ProjectVerified account @COVID19Tracking
          Our daily update is published. States reported a record number of cases—88.5k—and 1.3 million tests. 46k people are hospitalized. The death toll was 1049. pic.twitter.com/CRsbyiBRSw
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        1. keep your electric eye on me‏ @murakamiwood 26 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          I know all that. I was just outlining their logic. Of course it doesn't make any sense based on what we know.

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        1. Lōhāra gādhā  💮‏ @GadhaLohara 26 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          Would it be wrong to assume that England is trying to cellularize its population because it knows its contact tracing capacity is worthless? 5 Mi is arbitrary, but it’s easier to explain than: don’t spread your shit outside your own village?

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        1. Pavel Medvedev‏ @medvedi 26 Oct 2020
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          there is science though on what types of activity increases risk on infections. dancing, signing, loud talking in close proximity - all are there.

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        1. Robert Beard‏ @rbeard0330 26 Oct 2020
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          It’s somehow worse than doing nothing at all. If there were no rules, people would be scared and might stay away. Public health theater actively deceives them into thinking dangerous things are safe. It’s the flip side of the Scary Beach Picture trend.

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        2. falcon291‏ @falcon291 26 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep

          If you want to contain the virus: Mask usage and social distancing are the keys. 1. Shutting down all cafes, bars, restaurants but take-aways 2. Restricting public-transport are important. If you want to mitigate these precautions, it can help to some degree, but...

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        3. falcon291‏ @falcon291 26 Oct 2020
          Replying to @falcon291 @zeynep

          The problem is as seen before by mitigating, we are actually not eradicating coronavirus threat, but making it less severe, and maybe prolonging it. If whole world goes 3 week curfew maybe it would be better for all of us by all means.

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        2. Dr Rob Whitehurst‏ @OYCar 26 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @dylanhmorris

          Dr Rob Whitehurst Retweeted Sam Scarpino #BLM

          Restricting travel has proven very effective, notably Australia (where international, interstate and even local travel has been curtailed). Viral overdispersion allows spread from one community to another through highly connected individuals.https://mobile.twitter.com/svscarpino/status/1313158199642599424 …

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          Sam Scarpino #BLM @svscarpino
          The intensity of #COVID19 epidemics is heavily influenced by population structure. Our new paper analyzing high-resolution case, population, & mobility data from China and Italy is out today in @NatureMedicine. Co-led w/ @MOUGK & @EvolveDotZoo. 1/15 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1104-0 … pic.twitter.com/aBd6LtEpO9
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        3. Dr Rob Whitehurst‏ @OYCar 26 Oct 2020
          Replying to @OYCar @zeynep @dylanhmorris

          These maps of Belgium, language and covid cases, demonstrate how even an abstract barrier of two languages (which reduce social contacts between members of neighbouring communities) can slow the spread of the virus; confining it to French speaking areas - travel is important.pic.twitter.com/KKRLcDza2Y

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