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    1. Mireille Hildebrandt‏ @mireillemoret 7 Oct 2020

      Our current corona apps are forward looking (break up chains), we urgently need to engage backward looking (rooting out by tracing superspreading events). This has privacy implications, and is more difficult due to GAPPLE exposure notification system 1/2https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20201007_97675049?M_BT=4192326416671&_section=70294239&adh_i=6acb4805796ea613ca37c381114ee9d5&imai=&utm_campaign=krantenkoppen&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=standaard …

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    2. Mireille Hildebrandt‏ @mireillemoret 7 Oct 2020

      @PaulbernalUK @mikarv @carmelatroncoso to what extent does the exposure notification system now embedded in iOSs obstruct backward looking tracing such as practiced in Japan and advocated by @zeynep 2/2 https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ …

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    3. Vincent Toubiana‏ @vtoubiana 11 Oct 2020
      Replying to @mireillemoret @PaulbernalUK and

      That's one of the reason Singapore did not switch to EN : https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/two-reasons-why-singapore-sticking-with-tracetogether-protocol …

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    4. Michael Veale‏ @mikarv 11 Oct 2020
      Replying to @vtoubiana @mireillemoret and

      This blogpost however fails to mention that every Bluetooth emanation from TraceTogether resolves to an individual’s national identity number. I severely doubt this would fly among citizens in Europe, particularly for unproven and highly uncertain additional benefit.

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    5. Mireille Hildebrandt‏ @mireillemoret 12 Oct 2020
      Replying to @mikarv @vtoubiana and

      Maybe the question is at what point we should accept backward tracing (with state of the art data minimisation in place). And whether this decision is up to monopolist big tech companies or up to democratic governments that can be called to account in a court of law.

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    6. Nicholas Martin‏ @meilaoban 12 Oct 2020
      Replying to @mireillemoret @mikarv and

      Tend to agree. Could one say that approach to data protection chosen in EU w/ Covid apps's been to lock the state out of things as much as possible, trusting instead in tech-using citizens' voluntary action? Rather depoliticised, privatised, tech-soluntionist neolib approach, no?

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    7. Sarah Eskens‏ @SarahEskens 12 Oct 2020
      Replying to @meilaoban @mireillemoret and

      i wouldn't say that. the fact that downloading an app is voluntary does not make it a privatised, neoliberal approach. voluntariness comes from a rights-based approach... 1/2

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    8. Sarah Eskens‏ @SarahEskens 12 Oct 2020
      Replying to @SarahEskens @meilaoban and

      furthermore, most contact tracing apps in the EU indeed rely on GAEN, yet for almost every app, a national public authority is the data controller, which puts the state firmly in the center of responsibilities for data protection compliance,

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    9. Mireille Hildebrandt‏ @mireillemoret 12 Oct 2020
      Replying to @SarahEskens @meilaoban and

      Not so, because the GAEN restricts the options and thus decides for the state what data is can access. The GDPR provides an important exception for the processing of health related data in art. 9.2(i), it should not be up to big tech but to the legislator to decide on this.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 13 Oct 2020
      Replying to @mireillemoret @SarahEskens and

      It is a very interesting question, highlighting the core tension.

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