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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 2 Oct 2020

      I'm nominating this article for the Rosen Prize in explanatory writing. Rules for awarding the prize combine three factors: clarity in explanation, yes, but also underlying complexity of the thing being explained, AND urgency of the subject to the public.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ …

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    2. Francois Heinderyckx‏ @FHeinderyckx 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @jayrosen_nyu @unc_citap

      Not to mention, and she won't be offended by my saying this, @zeynep is not a trained expert in virology or epidemiology or anything like that. She is just a rigorous intellectual and a talented social science scholar. And a great columnist as a result.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @FHeinderyckx @jayrosen_nyu @unc_citap

      Not at all offended. I have the skills to read the scientific papers & talk to experts. I read about 100+ papers for each of these pieces I've written, and then put in a lot of work to produce the knowledge (a lot of it doesn't pre-exist, needs synthesis) and to write it clearly.

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    4. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @FHeinderyckx @unc_citap

      I'm glad you put it this way. Often when this kind of work is described the term used is "translate," as in translating the scientific literature into plain English. But that's not the right metaphor.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @jayrosen_nyu @FHeinderyckx @unc_citap

      Translate? I wish there was ready-made work to translate. *lolsob*. I've been doing a good deal of the putting together myself, and that's why I'm writing these pieces and the people focusing on "translating" science by interviewing experts aren't. Not how it works right now.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

      As is usually the case with women, many assume I merely "translate" what some experts are telling me. Lol. The experts don't agree; the papers are preliminary, and the knowledge is emerging. I'm not a good writer! Not my native language. It's my synthesis that's doing the work.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

      I read all the papers; I judge the methods, findings and statistics; I judge the expert proclamations and discard a whole amount because I judge them wrong; I put implications of many different findings together and I make claims on where the science is... It's not "translating."

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
      Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

      It's definitely different than being a domain expert in one of the individual fields, and I don't claim to be one. Not sure if it has a name, but I will absolutely claim a form of expertise and skill that's not "science communication." Dunno. Doing it because it needs doing.

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        2. Francois Heinderyckx‏ @FHeinderyckx 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu @unc_citap

          In an ideal world, we would just call this very good "journalism"…

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @FHeinderyckx @jayrosen_nyu @unc_citap

          My experience is that almost no science journalist writing for the general public does this; read a hundred+ papers and judge methods/findings. They are not given the space or the mission to do this. They interview a few experts which is a haphazard method; experts don't agree.

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        1. Jag Bhalla…Thought Plumber…Σ(Subtext) Tinkering‏Verified account @hangingnoodles 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

          I've described what she is doing as the equivalent of art criticism but for science (as she notes crucially requires judging & discarding methods)

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        2. Pedro Burgos‏Verified account @Burgos 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

          I don't think you'll find a single word, and it's great to see your distinction on "translating". Is curating + connecting + distilling + adding context, which results in something with greater value for the public discourse (and hopefully change!) than the sum of its parts.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @Burgos @jayrosen_nyu and

          Thank you! And I'm not saying I'm the only person on the planet who can do this, not at all whatsoever, but regular journalists almost never have the training (need to be able to read stats/methods at a minimum) AND a lot of time in their hands AND the freedom to make claims.

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        2. kurt squire‏ @ksquire 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

          I think you got it right with synthesis. It's like doing an academic literature review, but your output is in a different genre.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @ksquire @jayrosen_nyu and

          Definitely a version of it. I happened to have read/taught a lot on certain aspects of pandemics but some of the domains are not in my usual field. That's where the time advantage comes in; I read the papers like a maniac these days and have a job that allows me to do that.

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        1. Morten Bay, Ph.D. and stuff‏ @mortenbay 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @jayrosen_nyu and

          You keep doing what you do. You are making great contributions, even if it's technically outside your field. Although I think that your many years of work on how messages can diffuse in crowds gives you a solid foundation for studying how a virus does the same. So keep it up.

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        2. Jay Rosen‏Verified account @jayrosen_nyu 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @zeynep @FHeinderyckx @unc_citap

          We need a better word for "desiloization," which isn't even a word.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Oct 2020
          Replying to @jayrosen_nyu @FHeinderyckx @unc_citap

          Yeah don't have a word for it. Pandemic hit, looked around and jumped in because it was missing and I had the space and the support to try to fill that gap.

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